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SociallyTwisted 57M
179 posts
9/9/2021 7:01 am
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SociallyTwisted 57M
244 posts
9/9/2021 7:02 am

comments?


brandygirasol 55T
9432 posts
9/9/2021 7:23 am

EXCELLANT DISSERTATION Everyone Should Read This!!!


SociallyTwisted 57M
244 posts
9/9/2021 7:24 am

    Quoting brandygirasol:
    EXCELLANT DISSERTATION Everyone Should Read This!!!
thx.. I actually wrote that ages ago.. still relevant today.. for Me at least


Plzrmeister 67M  
10405 posts
9/9/2021 7:32 am

I'd only have one comment/suggestion. So that others don't get the impression that you think you're the all knowing, all seeing and all powerful authority on the subject at hand, I'd add the following caveat or a reasonable facsimile thereof. "These are my personal opinions. Other people's opinions will vary".

Otherwise someone might suggest another item for your list i.e. "If you think you know everything, you're not a Master". You know as well as I do that far too many people on here fall into this category, although I don't think you're one of them. I 'get' what you're trying to accomplish.

Make Women Female Again


Switch904 62M

9/9/2021 7:48 am

Thank you, very clear and succinct


SociallyTwisted 57M
244 posts
9/9/2021 7:53 am

    Quoting Switch904:
    Thank you, very clear and succinct
glad you could make use of it


IsoOnlineSub7 65M/56F
1546 posts
9/9/2021 7:54 am

Many excellent points. I would add, bullies and abusers are not master either, whether that is bullying or abusing anyone, not just your "property".


SociallyTwisted 57M
244 posts
9/9/2021 8:02 am

    Quoting IsoOnlineSub7:
    Many excellent points. I would add, bullies and abusers are not master either, whether that is bullying or abusing anyone, not just your "property".
I agree.. there's a huge difference between 'control freak' and Dominance... dominance requires proving your trustworthiness, The sub needs to feel eager to trust and the Dom needs to wear that shit on His sleeve.. prove it.. walk in it.. do what He says he will do without exception.. show the sub that He knows and wants only what's best for the sub. All the while realizing that mistakes will be made and adjustments and corrections neccesary.
Being a Dom requires constant growth.. any Dom (or sub for that matter) that says they've done or learned it all.. is clearly not a Dom (or sub) at all. Personal growth is a lifetime task.. if you think you're 'done'.. you're not living.. you're simply apethetically accepting your lot and surviving


Kruture 49M

9/9/2021 8:27 am

Thanks for sharing. You've made some very good points. I'm of the opinion a Master is no Master until the slave has determined he's her Master. That only comes though communication and building trust over time. I've read some ridiculous shit on some Dom profiles of how the title was 'bestowed' upon them by other Masters after such and such training for however long. In my mind, that's pure fucking fantasy projected as an attempt to fool young, naïve subs. I've mentored a number of young subs as they're contemplating they're curious before jumping in headfirst. I always tell them this: A Dom is not just a guy who barks orders at you, tells you what to wear, or what position to be in to get fucked. A true Dominant must wear many hats to include; coach, counselor, mentor, teacher, trainer, confidante, and so much more. The least of which, but certainly of great importance, is a facilitator of her deepest, darkest, most secret desires. I also advise them in learning not just about submissive behavior but also what Dominant behavior actually is in practice so they can avoid those who confuse Dominance with simply being domineering. The fakes, both Dom and sub, are easy to spot within a few minutes of conversation. Just my two cents...


SociallyTwisted 57M
244 posts
9/9/2021 8:30 am

    Quoting Kruture:
    Thanks for sharing. You've made some very good points. I'm of the opinion a Master is no Master until the slave has determined he's her Master. That only comes though communication and building trust over time. I've read some ridiculous shit on some Dom profiles of how the title was 'bestowed' upon them by other Masters after such and such training for however long. In my mind, that's pure fucking fantasy projected as an attempt to fool young, naïve subs. I've mentored a number of young subs as they're contemplating they're curious before jumping in headfirst. I always tell them this: A Dom is not just a guy who barks orders at you, tells you what to wear, or what position to be in to get fucked. A true Dominant must wear many hats to include; coach, counselor, mentor, teacher, trainer, confidante, and so much more. The least of which, but certainly of great importance, is a facilitator of her deepest, darkest, most secret desires. I also advise them in learning not just about submissive behavior but also what Dominant behavior actually is in practice so they can avoid those who confuse Dominance with simply being domineering. The fakes, both Dom and sub, are easy to spot within a few minutes of conversation. Just my two cents...
I agree.. A Dom is Dom of precisely nothing until a sub deems Him trustworthy enough to surrender her gift... the power exchange is definitely a two way street and no D/s relationship can prosper without equal parts


rosaenaluin 65F
11002 posts
9/9/2021 1:00 pm

Hmm, i think you forgot to mention, that a master and slave start off as two people.
That they negotiate what and where all his power/authority will lay.
If he does not have any interest in handling her finance, he wont have the power of that.
If she does not want him to have power over her family contacts, and he agrees with that, then she will have the power over that.
Maybe she is much better in handling the financial situation and he does not want to be bothered with that......

It is about negotiation and about what is important for both of them.
It is not a static one zise fits all dynamic.

it is what both people bring to the table, talk about and find out, what is important for them, and what is not so much important.

Also, "the gift? 'of submission is, in my eyes, 50 shades of puke/abuse/porn talk.

Both are equals, to start with. and after negotiation, becoming friend, getting to know each other, in and out, thén, they decide what and how their dynamis is going to look like.

Most on here, just want the play role, fantasy land, make believe, as long as they are horny, kinky sexy play NSA.
Players, have no cleu and have no dominant trait in their mind/body.
no selfcontrole, no selfknowledge, no sm/ D./s knowledge, no feeling of responsility, No respect for women in general.
A lot of women issues!

It is first relation orientated, a M/s or D/s

bedroom'dominance' is purely physical orientated.
my two cents,


SociallyTwisted 57M
244 posts
9/10/2021 3:24 am

    Quoting rosaenaluin:
    Hmm, i think you forgot to mention, that a master and slave start off as two people.
    That they negotiate what and where all his power/authority will lay.
    If he does not have any interest in handling her finance, he wont have the power of that.
    If she does not want him to have power over her family contacts, and he agrees with that, then she will have the power over that.
    Maybe she is much better in handling the financial situation and he does not want to be bothered with that......

    It is about negotiation and about what is important for both of them.
    It is not a static one zise fits all dynamic.

    it is what both people bring to the table, talk about and find out, what is important for them, and what is not so much important.

    Also, "the gift? 'of submission is, in my eyes, 50 shades of puke/abuse/porn talk.

    Both are equals, to start with. and after negotiation, becoming friend, getting to know each other, in and out, thén, they decide what and how their dynamis is going to look like.

    Most on here, just want the play role, fantasy land, make believe, as long as they are horny, kinky sexy play NSA.
    Players, have no cleu and have no dominant trait in their mind/body.
    no selfcontrole, no selfknowledge, no sm/ D./s knowledge, no feeling of responsility, No respect for women in general.
    A lot of women issues!

    It is first relation orientated, a M/s or D/s

    bedroom'dominance' is purely physical orientated.
    my two cents,
I think you might do well to read My other relevant blogs as well...Of course there is always negotiation, no 2 people are alike and neither are any two relationships but I think you perhaps are speaking specifically to D/s.. a sub 'wants' direction and a slave 'needs' direction.. thus there is considerably more flexibilty in those negotiations..

as to your comment regarding a 'gift'.... although I agree 50 shades of dipshittery was the WORST thing to happen this lifestyle.. the term 'gift' predates that tripe filled cinematic blunder by over 2 centuries, the act of using your last act of free will to surrender your free will has been called the 'gift' for centuries.. a Dom with no sub is Dom of NOTHING the sub's submission is what frees the Dom to walk in His role and is most certainly not to be taken lightly.. D/s ,

M/s is a lifestyle choice first (in My opinion) and not just the sum of it's 'kink'.. anyone can enjoy kink.. that doesn't make them Dominant or submissive.. just makes them kinksters

I think you and I are essentially on the same page and not sure where you got the impression that there was no 'courtship' or negotiation.. My blogs are filled with references that resonate with equality.. regardless.. this specific blog is simply about the differences between a top/bottom, a Dominant and a Master.. and I never suggested it was anything more than that.. and yes.. there are PLENTY of slaves in REAL life that want zero control over their affairs... you just simply havent encountered them because you've only considered your self and your set of experiences.. I dont always take control over a slaves' finances but when I have, it was because she agreed to it.. even wanted it. Just because you've never encountered it, doesn't mean you speak for everyone.


rosaenaluin 65F
11002 posts
9/10/2021 12:24 pm

SociallyTwhisted,

Thanks, i do think, we do agree on a lot.
I always say, explain, that the main core/focus for a Submissive/slave/masochiste, is HIM and his main core, focus is on her....As a person, not as a fetish dispenser. piece of meat...

Because the most dimwits on here, think, sm and kink is ALL ABOUT THEM!
Witch is very contra productive in any D/s, bedroom or full living together D/s or M/s, in my eyes... that is...

Yes, i know of those -no way out- , totall ownership of the Master/dominant in their dynamic..
It is, also, for me, a relation.
before the M/s. comes in the picture, have to like, enjoy each others company.

I prefere to call it, a way of living, of organising their relation, him being in charge, and she following him, because they both agreed to that, want or need that, maybe even....



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