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lovePjuice 78M
0 posts
4/1/2020 11:51 am
Is there a template, a set of rules that a subculture of Dom/Sub relationships follow?


I got a message:

i seek a loyal sub/slave to obey my wish and command message me so we can talk more better

I answered:
I am pleased to hear from you although very skeptical.

100% of women who have contacted me like this have motives other than developing a relationship. 

I cannot actually see your profile because I have not achieved the confidence that the site would really provide me any results.

For one thing my age seems to attract women interested in some sort of credit card information etc.  Some want me to go to some other site for their gain.

If I knew you were for real I'd join the site just to pursue.  I wonder what in my profile caused you to message me?  Did you read the profile statements? the question/answers? My blog entries? my posting on groups such as "Dommes Rule"?

I am honest.  I will answer any question you have truthfully and completely.  Honesty is the foundation for friendship.  I am kind and gentle.  I am a gentleman.  My humor will be evident.  I worship women.  You are beautiful.  I want to be WANTED.

Please, Mistress, give me a chance to be worthy of your attention.

She answered:

i am humble,respected and trustworthy not here for games and do not use your past to judge others we are not the same,i will like to give this a chance as well,tell me about you,location,occupation,age,do you live alone,have you been own before and share some photos of you to me

I answered back:

Yes mam.

The picture is attached.

I live far away from you and am surprised that you wrote to me any way. in Warwick, Rhode Island.

My age listed in ALT is true. I am 74.

I have been a member on Adult Friend finder many years.  There I belonged to groups focused on worshiping women.  Through that I have been contacted with would be Mistresses.  But I really have never succeeded in serving.

As I have expressed my desire to please women from my knees, many have suggested is that I submit to a mistress. 

Some have written me and I have complied with their request: Sending pictures, promising devotion. I once drove to Texas just to kneel and nestle my face kissing.  When I got there she couldn't meet.  I cannot do that again soon.

I desire you so that I am writing back as fast as I can. 

I hope my response is adequate.

She responded:

well distance does not matter to me,i can drive over to meet or come over to me any of which way you like it i will be ok and convenient with it,so do you have any training kits and also do you pay any tribute fee before to any of your ex mistress

my answer:
I am sorry I have no experience.  So I have no training.  So neither training kits nor tributes apply to me.  I am very sorry if I implied that I am more than just a willing servant very anxious grovel before you.
 How am I expected to address you?

Her response:

i understand you my slave,as from this moment you call me Madam and also the tribute fee is very compulsory so you can totally belong to me and your training kits will be send to you free of charge with this you can began training session  asap online with me before we meet

my answer:
Madam,

Please do not think me impertinent.  While i believe I have answered each of your questions and complied with directions you gave.  I remain curious as to how you chose to contact me.  You did not say that you had looked at any thing I have written on ALT.

It is for me to do as you direct without question.  It would instill more confidence in you if I understood what makes me a candidate for your attention.  My thought is that my writings give a Dom information to use for my control.

slave

her answer:

love what i read about your profile thats why i contacted you and i also love to own older men,are you on hangout or let me have your mobile number so we text  each other for easy communication

my response:
Madam,

I am thankful that my age is not an issue.  After my initial message I have been careful not to ask questions.  So I referred back to the original ones.  Do I have permission to ask questions?  I have been scammed.  Guys my age are targets for that.  So I am trying very hard to believe in you.  The site has no limits on language.  In your personal e-mail I am using language equal to the politeness you express.

My body is warm and excited to exchange messages with you. I do not know hangout.  I can e-mail from my phone.  I want very much to share the cell number with you.  I can physically kneel and kiss your toes.  It is much harder to relinquish my ID via a phone number.  I hope that doesn't eliminate me from your consideration.  It gives us a goal to reach.  Confidence in one another.

Her response:

i understand you my lovely slave,like i said i do not want you to use your past to judge your present,you wont regret having me as your mistress that is why i ask you for the tribute fee with this i can send you a contract form between us to guaranty your safety with mistress and to be rest assured you wont be scam like your past i give you my words

my answer:
Madam,

Tell me please what would you like this older man, slave do for you.  What will be my service to you? Your beauty whelms me.

slave
her response;

the tribute fee cost $500 and if you cant afford the full money you can make part of it with this i can send you the contract and you belong to me totally

The reason for my question is simple. I am not interested in an art form or to be confined to a structure. I lay my passions and desires bare. It makes me a candidate for a mistress to dominate me. I will do anything to wallow vulnerably on my knees before her following her direction serving her for her to award me the pleasure.

Kitkatshadow 57F

4/1/2020 12:04 pm

The only thing i see in her responses is "tribute" that is utter hogs wash, I am a sub myself, and NO DOM has ever asked for a "tribute" but then i am an alpha sub, who is not fooled easily.
Please take care, and do not be fooled by these "beauties" half or 90 % are fakes or bots, just trying to take advantage...
Best of luck


rosaenaluin 65F
10952 posts
4/1/2020 12:53 pm

Iam sorry, ,but i think she is playing you.
It looks like her only goal is the money....

Nowhere in her answer is she giving anything away from herself, she just keeps repeating that you should pay the "fee" for "training".... What ever that may means.

Dont pay ,ever! they are mostly scams.
If you pay, the change is very big, that you will never hear of her again.
A Domme who wants a slave or sub, is interested, or should be interested in YOU, who you are, what drives you and all that sort.
You as a person, not as a money dispenser or fetish dispenser.

You have to right to ask questions. You are only a slave of sub for her, when and if you agreed on her rules, never just online! never~!
That is play, fine, if that is what you want... no problem,
Be safe!


scott91 53M
284 posts
4/1/2020 1:02 pm

ive had lots of these lately, its getting worse, at least youre not falling for these people.
there are good people on here, hopefully some real people will contact you soon
have fun, stay safe
scott


Plzrmeister 67M  
10297 posts
4/1/2020 1:26 pm

Run ....

And don't look back.

Make Women Female Again


OLD_WHITESLAVE 69M
24 posts
4/1/2020 2:06 pm

There are lots of these online, saying we must start on kik etc, and wanting a fee. The other give away here is her saying she is humble and respectful ?? what kind of Domina is that ? I have no objection to tributing a genuine Mistress, but only in real time after we have actually met.


lovePjuice 78M

4/2/2020 7:06 am

Thank you to all who read and responded. I see good advice from you.

The objective is to expose the "hooker/john" ploy. I considered including her screen name. Usually within days the membership becomes "deactivated".

Another equally important motive is to establish my own honesty and sincerity.

Let us all be safe and act for the common good our community.


Bob_59 64M
16 posts
4/2/2020 8:32 am

I was made to be responsible and in charge at a young age, worked a lot as manager over people, etc. but I am new to BDSM and studying. I would like to see a guide to the old guard "rules" or guidelines, and pointers to variations. I keep seeing submissive "women" on this site and some others where they have been asking me (and I presume other men) to pay for them to relocate to the Dom/Master. I know accents and how to speak a few words of many languages, I also was a scambaiter by default, hunting hard through personals. The english errors look like the "Yahoo Boys", Nigerian scammers all ran to Accra Ghana to set up shop after Nigerian people found out they had made a deal with Boko Haram, that group who kidnapped 300 Nigerian teen girls. So the MIGHTY "Nigerian Princes" (419 scammers, Nigerian legal code 419) who used to go after many THOUSANDS of dollars are now going after $200 gas money or $300 airline ticket money for a fictitious hop from one US state to another. So I see lots of fake subbies asking for transport money. I ran into one subbie on another site who wanted me to pay her mistress for her previous training. Recently 3 "women" wrote to me wanting full ID details to send me 6.5 Million (found money) LOL
I sometimes taunt them by calling them Mugu or telling them they've been chewing on too much khat (drug weed) . Sometimes they open up in Edo, Akan or Pigeon.... For a long time one way to expose them was to try to get them to do a VOICE phone call, but the DUDES posing as women can't hide their voice like a croaking toad, so they never will. I found one FEMALE mugu recently trying to pass off her english with West African accent off as english with FRENCH accent. Even had 2 voice calls! LOL But she called me by accident once and left a message for a man with a different name and used a different name for herself! Exact same individual voice and accent.. LOL OOps! Even if you insist on paying for transportation or previous training, NEVER do it up front! The reason there is a flood of this is that some idiot did pay up front and this gets the scammers into a feeding frenzy. Them asking for UP FRONT cash is a HUGE red flag. Do NOT feed the mugus! Read the rules on Collarspace.



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