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DancingDom 74M
22528 posts
4/14/2021 10:05 pm

Negotiation should be part an negotiation to being a submissive or slave,

"One Big Sky Covers Us All Equally"


rope_n_cuffs 78M  
946 posts
4/14/2021 11:15 pm

In my humble opinion negotiation before play is essential to discuss limits, hard or soft. I suppose use of a safeword starts a form of negotiation during play. Part of SSC. As with all negotiations, no agreement should mean no deal.


slaveforyou365 63M  
4490 posts
4/14/2021 11:33 pm



Slave rick


mistress_black_d 60F
184 posts
4/15/2021 1:42 am

I think the question is fundamentally flawed; but your answer is correct.

Personally I would not engage in any real time interaction without that negotiation. The most significant reason is that I want to be able to create a scene , environment or relationship that is going to be mutually beneficial. If I don't know what the sub wants, and she does not know what I expect then we are doomed to failure.

For me one of the most seductive parts of an alternative lifestyle is that it forces us to communicate (not just talk) at a deeper level than most vanilla relationships get to experience.

Negotiation should not be a "once off" event either, I like to build into a relationship key points where the negotiation will be revisited (early on daily, but soon moving to weekly and beyond) as during those initial encounters limits are changing dynamically. For example they may start conservative and then the sub want to open them up. Or that the sub wanted to try something and now know they don't like it.

The question is more nuanced when it is rephrased "Can a slave negotiate with her Domme". For that I would also answer yes; but there would need to be a formalised process to request that negotiation.

An interesting discussion point though, so thank you for raising it.

Rachel


subjim63 60M
415 posts
4/15/2021 2:46 am

its too bad we are so far apart.


likesmatures 55M
4814 posts
4/15/2021 4:53 am

You made me smile..ofcourse pegging is requirred😁


NoNonsense_Dom 70M  
1526 posts
4/15/2021 5:38 am

Negotiation is essential from both side of the dynamic. What may have been out of play at the beginning of the dynamic may actually come back onto the list as time, trust and understanding is built.

An example of that is that a sub that I am talking with does not want me to be able to share her. When I explained why I wanted it, she saw the topic in a completely different light and accepted it. The same sub was not a devotee of anal, but would try it and see how things go. If after trying it a couple of times, in a slow and no pressure way she still didn't want it, then it would come off the list. So honest, open communication/discussion is essential so that both parties get the pleasure and satisfaction/contentment they desire.


brandygirasol 54T
9413 posts
4/15/2021 6:30 am

Mistress YES i agree and prefer to ask about everything that might be required from me and IF there is a problem we can discuss and fine tune it before playtime. That way I'm not objecting to anything because I'm really the type of submissive who is reluctant to use safe words or signals ... However I'm a sissified masochist with a low tolerance for pain so I do need to VENT ....


SubBitchboy4U 44M
42 posts
4/15/2021 7:45 am

Yes Miss you Are Right but the sub must have really good reasons and a good offer for you to negotiate.

And for me there is no need to negotiate about Pegging. For me I just would like to thank and please when you would like to use and Peg me as your Sissyslut. For me, it is a Duty when I want to be a good Slut for you Miss. It is your Right as a Mistress to fuck / Peg your Sissyslut for your Pleasure.


drmgirl622 68F  
26005 posts
4/15/2021 7:58 am

Negotiation is a meeting of the minds.....critical for a D/s relationship.


mikenclt 63M
560 posts
4/15/2021 8:05 am

Like your terms.


prpackaged 80M  
738 posts
4/15/2021 8:17 am

Negotiation? I thought it all started with negotiation. Sub asks will you cane me and dom negotiates with how many time? More seriously, We start by exploring each other's wants and desires then we work out the details so each enjoys the offerings of the other. Then we can proceed step by step. Each step is a negotiated part of enjoying each other.

The blackest lie is a partial truth that leads you to the wrong conclusion.


sissy_in_frills 39T

4/15/2021 8:27 am

I'd go so far as to say that if a sub hasn't negotiated with their Dom(me) then it's not a D/s relationship - it's abuse.

Sure, in the moment and day-to-day us s-types give up control to our D-types, but only within an agreed upon set of constraints. The "no-limits" submission is a nice fantasy, but here in the real world we all have to negotiate what we want, need and are willing to accept.

Even when one party or the other says something is "non negotiable", like your requirement for pegging, that's not saying that all submissives have to consent to pegging. It's stating that you will only consider playing with a submissive who consents to pegging. That's still a part of the negotiation.


kcsub4pegging 45M
14 posts
4/15/2021 12:33 pm

Communication is key, call it what you want. Everyone has things that they are not comfortable with and that is fine. Discussing them is key to a good time, no matter your verbiage.

Also I find the fact that Tinkers321 will be pegging her subs so hot


Dave54321 61M
2701 posts
4/15/2021 2:05 pm

Yes negotiation should be the starting point of any sub/dom relationship.


simon77889 49M
144 posts
4/15/2021 2:55 pm

Great post Miss and love the pic! What kind of sub wouldn't consent to pegging? Only the lucky get pegged by You!


ibeLowU21 70M
34 posts
4/15/2021 7:22 pm

Of course, you can. But I would not even characterize it as "negotiation". Just let the other person know what your limits are. If that person cannot respect your limits, then tell them, to hit the road. Remember that just because you are a sub doesn't make you THAT person's sub until all is agreed to BEFORE you become her/his sub.


satyrmi 59M/58F
40 posts
4/17/2021 10:25 pm

I find that negotiations, like discussions, are important at the beginning of relationships. They help identify boundaries and limits. As things progress, they aren't needed as much. That being said, communication, in one form or another is important.


Seecko 53M
164 posts
4/17/2021 11:45 pm

You can make all you want maam espescially peg me 😊


Bound2Please84 53M
33 posts
4/28/2021 9:36 pm

In my experience if a Domme is not open to discussing your wants, needs, desires and limits then they have no desire to know you. A Domme/sub relationship is just that, a relationship. And no healthy relationship is one sided.


obedient40 59M
19 posts
4/29/2021 4:41 am

O yes a sub must be owned to know who is in charge. A pegging ensures a sub is kept in their rightful position..... beneath their superior. Their submission and humiliation enforced and ensures their desire to submit and serve fully. A sub is in no position to say no but must agree to their craving to be Dominated and owned.
A sub saying no is a slippery slope. A firm hand leads a sub to redemption and happiness under firm control always. 1200234


porsche269 59M
5 posts
5/6/2021 10:46 am

Hello

Please indulge me you are beautiful and interesting dominant I find your logic and reasoning similar to mine ...

I really find it interesting that dominant women enjoy pegging and it's not negotiable with you... I think pegging is a tool to express your dominance over your sub but I would say it's more do you... I would love to know what kind of effect it has on you and what you use it for ???

There is a sadistic side in me but I enjoy using pleasure sprinkled with a bit of pain to reinforce my dominance on my sub... I always liked riding hard while I'm smacking some ass which leads to a much more intense orgasm for her and I !!!

I find most Subs need pain it makes them feel cared for and wanted...

For me it's a tool it's a way to put them into Subspace and once they're in there happy space what's important to you becomes very important to them...

jamie



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