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ExNameForUse 53F
4243 posts
2/9/2024 9:56 am
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ExNameForUse 53F
5764 posts
2/9/2024 9:58 am

A friend of mine sent this picture today after we talked a bit on this topic... and he may well be right... I think I shall print and frame this and keep it on my office desk as a reminder to just keep saying to everyone "You are right"


Artschoolgrad 47M
8707 posts
2/9/2024 10:09 am

the world is so very bittersweet


ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 9:06 am:
It is, indeed.

grywolf2 73M
3109 posts
2/9/2024 10:22 am

Spock wields logic like a phaser.


ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 9:06 am:

drmgirl622 68F  
26107 posts
2/9/2024 10:25 am

I just can't be bothered interacting with such negative people and haters.....a waste of time.


ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 9:05 am:
It is true, Dreamy, but when you have to work with them, it becomes a little more difficult to remain cooperative and not to be bothered with them... they are truly like a herd... they sense when you disapprove or disagree with how they are even when you say nothing at all... and it is where and when the game begins...

Plzrmeister 67M  
10449 posts
2/9/2024 11:05 am

We live in a time where the smart keep quiet so as not to offend the stupid. Because if they focus on you, and they always perform in a pack, they will try to discredit you in every possible way, assuming the role of the victim, projecting on you everything that they are.

Wow - Talk about hitting the nail on the head! Bravo ...

I think this is what you should frame because, well - You're Right!

Make Women Female Again


ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 8:56 am:
Thank you, Plz... I am not that smart, but sometimes it feels as though I am surrounded by very "limited" people... shallow... and I don't know how to blend and survive among them. Maybe it is about me, not them... don't know really...

brandygirasol 55T
9433 posts
2/9/2024 11:06 am

Peoples appearance and looks- its better to say something nice or else say nothing at all...👄


ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 8:53 am:
It pisses me off when I hear them making comments on this... it's just plain rude to do that... my brain can't process what they are doing when they do it... how envious and hateful one must be to even pay attention to someone's appearance and as that is not enough - to make comment and fun of it...

jenny14 75T  
90348 posts
2/9/2024 11:41 am

Ex

I think the cartoon say it all!

Sadly , there are many people to whom this applies!


A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. George Bernard Shaw

Jenny


ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 8:50 am:
Sadly, dear Jenny... sadly you are correct.

1benquick 71M
612 posts
2/9/2024 12:33 pm

I agree with you, entirely, Ex! Have you pondered what it is that has caused this change in 'behavior' within society as a whole? I often wonder how this has come about, where the attacking, pack mentality has arisen from...I have GENERALLY followed the suggestion of the late, GREAT American 'philosopher' and Southern troubadour, Jimmy Buffett, when he wrote and sang, 'I'm just tryin' to get by bein' quiet and shy, i a world full of pushin' and shove!'...from the song, 'The Wino and I Know' 1974 'Livin' and Dyin' in 3/4 Time' Album


ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 8:49 am:
I have no sociology or psychology education or knowledge to know where is this coming from or what is causing it, could only make some guesses, or assumptions, but that herd/pack mentality is a dangerous thing for any thinking individual.

uncommon1 66M  
1434 posts
2/9/2024 1:38 pm

We live in a time when truth an honesty
are no longer absolute, but are measurable.
Where integrity and morality are no longer
needed to be elected to lead a nation.
We can put a man on the moon, but we can't
elect an honest, moral, forthright president,
congressmen or senator!!
We live in a time when going to church makes
you more ethical than how you treat your
neighbor.
Sleek, ersatz, airbrushed leadership has replaced
authenticity as a desirable quality.


ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 8:30 am:
This is pretty much the political scene of my country, but it seems not only mine...
As Rosa mentioned, authenticity is a frightening thing to those without anything authentic, hence integrity... and they are in the majority... it is why I think they will do anything to discredit you so they can feel adequate and enough.
Either way, sad state of affairs.

RobertBishop 66M  
2145 posts
2/9/2024 3:15 pm

It's all about "culture" - the thousand things we do - or used to do - without thinking. These were "The Rules of Life."
You learned the Rules of Life at home, but they were reinforced within your community - in schools, in church, in "public service announcements" sponsored by both governments and NGOs, through the press, radio and television.
The simple act of Knowing How to Behave in Public is now a lost art. It starts with things like not holding the door for the person behind you, or not offering to give up your seat to a lady of any age.
We commonly see people lose their minds and fly into a rage when faced with the slightest bit of frustration.
A few weeks ago, my daughter and some of her friends went to a concert at a large venue, and another mid-20s woman sitting near them just peed on the floor - several times - rather than get out of her seat to go the bathroom.

I mean, c'mon...


ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 8:26 am:
RB, I can only say those are my thoughts as well, and thank you for articulating them for me here...
I don't even know how to comment or what to say about what your daughter experienced... is there an end, any limits to how low people can go... a complete disaster.

likeithot19 62M
6056 posts
2/9/2024 4:04 pm

Our government school system changed a basic but mind changing, and attitude changing by teaching, I, YOLO, instead of WE.


ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 9:11 am:
And it is not only the school system that is changing the mindset but everything that is also available as a source of information or interaction... it has all gone too far.

NoNonsense_Dom 70M  
1538 posts
2/9/2024 5:47 pm

I like the post Ex, and it definitely gives the reader something to think about, BUT, I am NOT going to give these Cretins any credit for anything, because I have worked too hard and too long for what I have, and that includes the intellectual property/knowledge, the interpersonal skills, and the materialistic items PLUS my friends. I operate with ethics and morals and try to treat people with manners, and this has worked quite well for me for all these years, and I am not about to change now. I AM ME and as an outsider you will either like me or you won't, you will either respect me or you won't. Liking me is your decision not mine and respecting me is my decision in the way I treat you and whether you will return that treatment or not. I am not going to lose sleep over it, society can not punish me by taking away my birthday or giving me a label I refuse to acknowledge and accept.

So if someone wants to treat me in the ways you have noted, then that becomes their problem not mine. I live life relatively stress free, I have many people I class as friends, I have thousands of people who respect me, and I have INTEGRITY.

If we withdraw from life and let these selfish people try to govern us/ stand over us/ belittle us then we are giving them even more power, power that they do not deserve. And from this, they will just become greater in number if we do not stand up.


ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 8:21 am:
It has been a tough week in the office and my post summed up my thoughts from this past week... I believe that withdrawing is not the way to go, at least not before you put them in their place, not in any rude manner, but simply drawing the line and saying enough is enough... I am also labeled as a person of integrity, both in my professional and private life and it is something I feel very proud of. It has cost me a lot, but I am convinced it is the only way to live your life. That applies to situations I wrote here as well... you can fool me around as much as you want, insult me, or degrade me... but not as long as you want...
The problem is that I hate when I have to tell someone... hey, you are crossing the line of simple decency because for me it is something that should be naturally given or taught at home in their early days...

Peter8xxx 65M
605 posts
2/9/2024 9:37 pm

This Vulcan, he has no idea...
Is your neighbor Bosnian, do you like him and what does your family say about it? Do you like Putin's boots?
Thoughts and prejudices that build up immediately!
I was born in Romania, my father was Hungarian and my mother was German! I think of the families in Russia and Ukraine that are mixed!
This Vulcan has no idea!!!


ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 8:07 am:
I have no idea what you are talking about...

boh99 68M
3154 posts
2/9/2024 10:57 pm

Kirk and those danged emotions ( smile )


ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 8:06 am:
It seems I have a problem regulating my own since this sort of thing makes me disgusted and in a way upset me.

rosaenaluin 65F
11006 posts
2/9/2024 11:48 pm

A very good writing, indeed, Ex.

I am from the; You are right, school too.

Dont argue with stupid, prejeduced people.
With all their judging you, they are also judging themselfs, but are not even aware of that....
Most of the time, very insecure, to judge others.. about almost anything..
waste of time, let go...

Being authentic is a threat for those.

wont bother trying to teach others some manners, common sense and all those old ways... or so it seems...
Just stay as far away as possible, from those...ignore, block, mentally, and move on.


ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 8:04 am:
I wrote about my colleagues, those are the people I am spending 8 hours a day with at least... and more and more I am distancing myself from their small talks and gossip and becoming at the same time their target... I know I should go with the "Yes you are right" approach, but sometimes it is difficult not to put them in their place since they have no limit on how far they are prepared to go... until you finally respond... then, of course, you are the one to blame for your reaction... but at least they stop then with their nonsense... at least for a while...

aliljaded 53F
8926 posts
2/10/2024 1:43 am

    Quoting RobertBishop:
    It's all about "culture" - the thousand things we do - or used to do - without thinking. These were "The Rules of Life."
    You learned the Rules of Life at home, but they were reinforced within your community - in schools, in church, in "public service announcements" sponsored by both governments and NGOs, through the press, radio and television.
    The simple act of Knowing How to Behave in Public is now a lost art. It starts with things like not holding the door for the person behind you, or not offering to give up your seat to a lady of any age.
    We commonly see people lose their minds and fly into a rage when faced with the slightest bit of frustration.
    A few weeks ago, my daughter and some of her friends went to a concert at a large venue, and another mid-20s woman sitting near them just peed on the floor - several times - rather than get out of her seat to go the bathroom.

    I mean, c'mon...
I agree with you. It's getting terrible out there and the "Normal Rules" don't apply anymore.
P.S. What your daughter witnessed is truly disgusting.

"Men need to hunt. She obviously understands this. She’s offering herself as prey. Not easy prey. But willing.”


DancingDom 74M
22588 posts
2/10/2024 3:21 am

I watched it evolve in various positions I held over the years. Interacting with the public you see how it evolves , not just in younger generations but in older too. American society and probably the while world has been changed by the use of the internet and the constant connection with devices such as the so called Smart phone. The bulk of society is becoming self centered. Thankfully, some of us have a sense of community.

Respect was a corner stone in this community. Not so much anymore. It went both ways.

I left a response to you in my private blog, not sure if you read it.

"One Big Sky Covers Us All Equally"


ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 7:40 am:
DD, I have just checked and sent my response, so hopefully you will see it soon and get back to me... thank you also for your comment, DD. We do think the same.

BldBvrsareGr8 67M
258 posts
2/10/2024 7:13 am

I totally agree with what you've posted.. sad times indeed that we are living through! Are we witnessing the end of life as we've know it.. sometimes it seems so! Sometimes it seems as though societal norms are being totally disregard in favor of rampant nonsensical noise!


ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 7:39 am:
Thanks for stopping by... yes, those are pretty much my thoughts as well... like the end of some era of simple decency.

hungaroboy 46M

2/10/2024 8:27 am

I laugh at how you try to discredit those democracies with your cries about
"The simple act of Knowing How to Behave in Public is now a lost art. It starts with things like not holding the door for the person behind you, or not offering to give up your seat to a lady of any age."
in which you had fought for this some years before. Does the grape is sour?
PATHETIC PEOPLE! THIS IS WHAT YOU WANTED, NOW, YOU RECEIVED IT, EAT IT FULLY! DIDN'T YOU OVEREMPHASIZED HUMAN RIGHTS WITHOUT OBLIGATIONS, DIDN'T YOU PUMPED UP THOSE EGOES WHO OVERGROWN YOU IN THE NAME OF FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION? IF NOT, WHO ELSE?


ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 9:08 am:
Why are you shouting? How about some basic decency since we are on this topic...

hungaroboy 46M

2/10/2024 10:35 am

My experience is that those people demand public decency who are not willing to be decent publicly.


ExNameForUse replies on 2/11/2024 12:00 am:
It may happen, I agree... many would ask for what they can not perform, or blame others for what their wrongdoings are... but not all the time... It is so easy to slip into the rage, I know it from my own experience... people can be quite disrespectful while playing the role of "good guys" and making you look like the "bad guy".
But if there is anything I have learned so far it is that such behavior is like a boomerang... so I choose to first remain quiet as my response which to a smart one should be enough to understand I am not one to be fooled with, and if that doesn't work, I shall tell them, without shouting, what I see and explain where my boundaries are...
And then withdraw from any further interaction. Boomerang will do the rest.

NoNonsense_Dom 70M  
1538 posts
2/10/2024 3:04 pm

ExNameForUse replies on 2/11/2024 2:21 am:
It has been a tough week in the office and my post summed up my thoughts from this past week... I believe that withdrawing is not the way to go, at least not before you put them in their place, not in any rude manner, but simply drawing the line and saying enough is enough... I am also labeled as a person of integrity, both in my professional and private life and it is something I feel very proud of. It has cost me a lot, but I am convinced it is the only way to live your life. That applies to situations I wrote here as well... you can fool me around as much as you want, insult me, or degrade me... but not as long as you want...
The problem is that I hate when I have to tell someone... hey, you are crossing the line of simple decency because for me it is something that should be naturally given or taught at home in their early days...

Ex I also am proud of my Integrity. It is great to be able to look in the mirror of a morning and know that whoever calls on me for whatever reason will get total support and effort so long as they are being respectful and real with their needs. And yes dear lady, they should have been taught about being respectful and the use of manners as a child at home. I would hate to see how the offspring of these people grow and learn.


ExNameForUse replies on 2/11/2024 12:02 am:
Being respectful and real... it is as simple as that, yet for many completely impossible.
Thank you again for your thoughts and input, NND.

likeithot19 62M
6056 posts
2/11/2024 3:51 am

    Quoting likeithot19:
    Our government school system changed a basic but mind changing, and attitude changing by teaching, I, YOLO, instead of WE.
ExNameForUse replies on 2/10/2024 12:11 pm:
And it is not only the school system that is changing the mindset but everything that is also available as a source of information or interaction... it has all gone too far.
Look at the music.. Led Zeppelin 1975 When mountains crumble to the sea there will still be you and me Kind woman I give you my all, kind woman, nothing more
Nicki Minja 2012 you a stupid hoe, you a, you a stupid hoe


ExNameForUse replies on 2/11/2024 4:02 am:
Tragedy...

rosaenaluin 65F
11006 posts
2/11/2024 6:07 am

You meet mediocrity, everywhere, and they come in packs, alas.

Sometimes, you need to act rude, act like they do, because that is the only way, they understand what you are saying.
meet them, on their level, so to say...

And by doing so, put them in their place.
Make a statement.
I dont know if that is good for the overall mentallity on the workfloor?

But, maybe keep you out of their target games...?
Meet them, on their own emotional level, 'intelligence' level.....?


ExNameForUse replies on 2/11/2024 12:54 pm:
I have just read your pack mentality post and you are right, Rosa.
I try to avoid confrotation since we work together, but there are moments when it is impossible to remain quiet.

rosaenaluin 65F
11006 posts
2/12/2024 3:37 am

I understand, that sometimes, it looks smart to not get into a confrontation, with such a pack mentality...., and maybe it is?

It is your character too...
You are much more nice, to others, then i am.

They never have the benefit of the doubt, with me! !! hahahahah

I am a figther, surviver, in an other way, then you are, too.

So i go full force, when needed, to put some people in there place, and make known, i dont take shit from anyone, no matter what.

You just have to find your way, of dealing with those folks, my way is my way, you have your own power to handle this, in YOUR way.
I know you can!

Sometimes, being blunt helps, sometimes being over, Icy polite helps too...

You will never fit the pack, so that is a fact, you have to deal with, accept.
and make you strategy on that... if you feel the need to do that....


ExNameForUse replies on 2/12/2024 8:40 am:
Thank you dear Rosa, for everything you said... certainly something to think about 😘😘

aliljaded 53F
8926 posts
2/17/2024 12:37 am

I once heard "NO" is a complete sentence. <<<Read That Again. XX

"Men need to hunt. She obviously understands this. She’s offering herself as prey. Not easy prey. But willing.”


ExNameForUse replies on 2/18/2024 7:54 am:
I said something close to NO, and now they don't talk to me... which was rather uncomfortable at the beginning, but as time passes I find it the best possible way to be... xxx


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