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2/21/2021 10:26 am

Remember when

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Lioness

562 posts
2/21/2021 10:42 am

I never considered opening a door, pulling out a chair, etc as submissive acts. Just manners. Maybe I was wrong all this time.

lionslair replies on 2/21/2021 11:55 am:
You are correct, it IS manners, but it can also show submission. Most people arent taught manners anymore. A shame. The world would be a better place if people were still taught basic manners. Like saying thank you when a gentlemen holds the door for you. I think that may be part of it. Those of my generation might still be opening doors for women if the women responded back with manners, its polite to say thank you.

bimom4taboo 54F

2098 posts
2/21/2021 11:38 am

that's i think is easy. women's lib. did change how men think of women and how women think of women too. you look around now how women dress. they don't take the time to dress nice, make-up no nothing. there saying to men and other women take me as i am. the day's when women dressed nice did there hair and all that other stuff is long gone and im very sorry to see that.

bimom4taboo 54F

2098 posts
2/21/2021 11:54 am

Ok and then the late 60's and early 70's with free love with anyone. that would never ever happen before . so we did a lot to our selfs too

1uncommondom 77M

2/21/2021 11:59 am

Apparently you're too
young to remember
Bob Dylans song, the
times they are a changing.
Times change, people change,
situations and relationships
change . . The only constant
thing in life, my friend,
is change.

lionslair replies on 2/21/2021 12:06 pm:
Oh no, I remember the song well. While times may change, having basic manners and being police and trying to impress the girl of your dreams should not.
You should teach your children manners, and they in turn teach their children manners, and on it goes. I did, and if I had ever seen a child of mine not being polite and mannered they wouldve gotten knocked into next week. Manners are a basic requirement for societies, to live in large groups as we do. This is why there is so much conflict, people no longer have manners and dont understand polite.

lionslair 60F

134 posts
2/21/2021 11:59 am

I think you are right in the womens lib thing. Those idiots (who I dont count myself part of) that got offended when men tried to be gentlemen and open doors and the like made a lot of men stop. Those women and I use the term loosely dont represent the majority of us but they ruined it for all of us in many ways. As for dress, as long as your clothes are clean and your hair clean and brushed, I do not think dressing up or makeup should come into play. It is the same for men, they dont dress up, wear suits, dress shoes, ties, etc like most used to. And thats fine, though I love a man who looks snappy in a well fitted suit., but just manners. Especially if youre seriously trying to impress me lol

Lioness

lionslair 60F

134 posts
2/21/2021 12:02 pm

People still had manners in the 60s and 70s. They still brought flowers and opened doors and such. Many hippies might not have, but the rest of society still had manners. But yes I guess the hippies grew up and if they never practiced having manners, then they still dont

Lioness

oldiron4 70M

158 posts
2/21/2021 12:05 pm

Whether it was the 60s or last week, I am a gentleman to the lady I am with, opening / holding doors, common coutesies. It is the way I was raised and it's stuck with me. Not a submissive quality, a gentlemanly quality.

lionslair replies on 2/21/2021 2:38 pm:
Then your parents were good parents and raised you right. And yes, its just polite, its manners. Manners and being polite takes you far in life. Something few are taught these days sadly. But especially in a sub it should be automatic to do these things.

1uncommondom 77M

2/21/2021 12:08 pm

Morals are respect
for ourselves . .
Manners are respect
for others . .
The technologies have
created generations
that have gradually been
removed from inter-personal
dynamics requiring manners.

lionslair replies on 2/21/2021 2:39 pm:
Yes, for the younger generations I agree. But I am talking about my generation. Most of us were raised with manners, most people I ever knew anyways. So what happened to them? Why have they forgotten what their parents taught them?

Plzrmeister 67M

10455 posts
2/21/2021 1:46 pm

Captain Kangaroo said the two magic words were 'Please & Thank You'.

Well there you have it .... Captain Kangaroo hasn't been on TV in eons to teach youngsters.

So you 'Remember When'?

We both do.

Make Women Female Again

lancylad 78M

384 posts
2/21/2021 1:47 pm

Gentleman first sub second is the way that I look at it but then I am old fashioned & proud so to be !!!!

lionslair replies on 2/21/2021 2:46 pm:
Absolutely. One does not have to be submissive to have manners. The most dominant man on the planet is still expected to have manners as far as I am concerned. But my point is, that back then in vanilla dating world, they did this to try and grab your favor, so why when you are trying to curry my favor as a sub would you not go above and beyond and remember what you were taught as a young man? This is absolutely not a sub trait, merely a trait of someone who has manners, and most certainly of someone who is courting a woman whether vanilla and especially domme.

Dave54321 61M

2718 posts
2/21/2021 4:16 pm

Like others have said it's about good manners, rather than being sub or Dom.
I suspect the ones you are having trouble with on line, are just playing at it, just
after a cheap thrill.

As for holding the car door open for her, while she gets in & then closing it for her.
I've heared women complain they are lucky, if they can get the door closed before
their husband or boyfriend is driving off down the road.

About thirty years ago, I was coming out of a shop, an attractive young lady was
about to enter. So I held the door open for her, smiling at her as I did so.
She looked straight at me & with feeling said, "male chuvanist pig." OK, so that's
rare, but it shows the kind of abuse you can get for just showing good manners.
I would have held the door open & smiled if it had been an older woman, an older man, or even a young man. As I say, just about good manners.

lionslair replies on 2/21/2021 5:57 pm:
But that rude female just showed how low class she was by being rude when you were being polite. I understand some men catch abuse from those fools on occasion, but I think that is the exception rather than the rule. However I have male friends who tell me that they rarely get a thank you or smile out of being polite such as holding a door. THAT is truly a shame. I have always made sure to acknowledge with a thank you and smile. I as a woman have also held many doors for people with their arms full, or hands full with kids, or elderly, or handicapped, or just because. Most will say thank you. If they dont, I still am happy that I am well mannered even if they are not and it does not keep me from holding the door the next time, or assisting someone or whatever. Manners are about who you are, not the acknowledgement, though it certainly helps reinforce manners.

Peter8xxx 65M

606 posts
2/21/2021 6:03 pm

Women now want everything! The same jobs, the same pay, equal rights, the same attention as 100 years ago, there is so much what you want, hope for, ask for and fight for! You are insatiable in your pursuit of attention! I haven't met a woman who held the door for me ..... I don't want that, but she doesn't know ..... A never ending story and so many facets !!! A woman, a story ... I love her ... A story comes to mind: Trump and Merkel! A great example of how embarrassing a man can behave!
(Frauen wollen mittlerweile alles!!! Gleiche Jobs,gleiche Bezahlung,Gleichberechtigung,gleichbleibende Aufmerksamkeit wie vor 100 Jahren,es gibt sooo viel was sie sich wünschen,erhoffen,erbitten und erkämpfen!Sie sind unersättlich in ihrem Streben nach Aufmerksamkeit! Ich habe noch keine Frau getroffen die mir die Tür aufhielt.....Das möchte ich ja gar nicht aber sie weiss es ja nicht.....Eine nie endende Story und sooo viele Facetten!!! Eine Frau,eine Geschichte....Ich liebe sie...Mir fällt dabei eine Geschichte ein: Trump und Merkel! Ein grandioses Beispiel wie peinlich sich ein Mann benehmen kann!!!)

lionslair replies on 2/22/2021 8:26 am:
Lol well gee With some exceptions, why should a woman not be able to get the same pay for the same job? Insatiable? Youre funny. If you havent met a woman who held the door for you, well generally we dont stand around holding doors unless your arms are full carrying something, or handicapped or such soooo. Are you one of those who see a 97yr old lady standing on the bus and refuse to give your seat up. As for Trump, I dont see what he has to do with this. I dont know if he holds doors for his wife or not, but hes not trying to be my sub either.

Funcasual3 63M

2/21/2021 6:10 pm

Ever changing world.

Domteddybear1956 67M

2/21/2021 7:13 pm

I am one who was raised with manners and I raised mine to have manners and use them and I am trying to make sure that my grandchildren are raised to use their manners also.I have had rude comments given to me about not needing to open the damn door,I can do it myself and many other rude comments,both from a younger generation and my own. I do not like to wear a suit but do dress in a nice dress shirt and pants and also nice dress shoes.Look at how younger people dress today.Look at Country Music "Stars" and others when there are award shows.No respect for themselves or others.How they dress for a show is one thing,but when on a national or internationally broadcast tv show watched by million they should dress up and dress with class,and talk with respect. Today no one is taught to use manners,treat others with respect.Instead it is acceptable to be rude to others and not be called out for it. My children watch me whenever we are together and I always use my manners,i.e. Yes,Ma'am,No Ma'am,Please,Thank You,etc.And so far I am proud to say that at least when they are around me they are using their manners and so are my grandchildren. And when I do take a lady out I treat her as a lady.And my sub/slave is to wear a nice dress or skirt and blouse when we are going out for a nice evening.And I dress accordingly. I do not know why things have changed.But it has made for a very sad society which affects all parts of our lives.Think not?Look at how politicians treat each other,at all levels.Debates?High schoolers in a debate class can do better than any politician in the last 30 or so years. Pants hanging down around my backside?My grandmother would still grab one of my ears and take me around the back of the house or barn and use a belt or wooden spoon on me and give me a hot lecture about how to dress and act.

lionslair replies on 2/22/2021 8:30 am:
Yes, I agree it is indeed a sad state that we are finding ourselves in....I dont know how we as a society have taught the younger generations that it is so acceptable to be rude, and not only not respect your elders but actively wish that we all would die. smdh.

kurwa90 31M

30 posts
3/12/2021 7:48 pm

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Alltiedupotown 41M

2 posts
3/21/2021 2:25 am

Feminism killed that, unfortunately.

lionslair replies on 3/21/2021 8:56 am:
Those feminazis were and are a small part of the population. Just the biggest mouths screaming so got lots of attention. Most women appreciate the small gestures of a gentleman. The problem is parents are no longer teaching manners, and too many of the older generation have decided to just ignore what they are taught.
It has made the world a sadder and ruder place altogether (and by no means to manner pertain to just men)

lionslair replies on 5/28/2021 10:51 pm:
Exactly!!!! I think they are just man haters. Feminists never have and never will represent the greater population of women.
And no, parents have forgotten to teach their children manners and I dont understand how those that were taught can just ignore their manners. So frustrating. No, not just men, people as a whole are just turning into a bunch of rude, unmannered asshats.


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