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pac369 64F  
10505 posts
4/30/2021 2:27 pm

Last Read:
9/16/2021 11:03 am

A sub, with a brain, is a terrible thing to waste!

See below..


~ Physical strength is measured by what we carry. Inner strength is measured by what we can bear. ~


pac369 64F  
12700 posts
4/30/2021 3:10 pm

I found out some shit about myself yesterday...

First and foremost I am not a traditional sub... I am not just a follower or worshipper to a Dom...Can I be that?? Of course.... with time and trust I can be as loyal as any sub.... But I will not start any relationship just blindly following a Dom. His Dominance and my submission has to be earned....

I also realize I am not a brat... Do I like to push a Dom to see what he's about at the beginning? Well... probably. To see what I can get away with more than anything else. But what I know about myself is this... It's my nature to do this... I do not go out of my way to disrupt or cause mischief for a Dom.

Being treated like or acting like a cow or pig absolutely will not work for me.. I do not thrive on humiliation, degradation, and abuse from my Dominant. Nor would I choose to reside in a cage or eat my meals from a bowl on the floor... To constantly feel less than human, but have a Dom who wants to fuck me or pass his critter around..

A domestic sub doesn't work either. I am so much more than just cleaning a house, making dinner, and doing yard work. I did all that with my 4 bedroom house because it was mine! Not because a Dom is ordering me to...

What about a kajira or slave girl? Doubtful... To technically give up all my rights... Or not own any property... Mmmmm.. How about "no"... Where I would be expected to render absolute obedience to a Master.. How I could be sold, given away, or loaned out for sexual favors, and never say a word about it... No, no, and just no!!

So.... What about a little or baby girl? While aspects of this relationship could be appealing. As a 24/7 dynamic though I could not act like a young girl all the time. And I absolutely do realize these relationships are not pedophilic in nature. Since the public doesn't really get it, Daddy Dom's and littles can suppress their true orientations. Which makes finding others, with similar desires, difficult at best....

And no matter what I will never be a pain slut... Of course I value discipline and appreciate punishment. But I don't get off on pain for pains sake.. Nor do I fit the profile of being sexually promiscuous or desiring extremely masochistic activities is not my style either.

So... where do I fit? Out of these examples or the many other types of subs? I honestly don't know? But I know I can still be strong and be a sub. I know I can still call out wrong behavior and be a sub. And I will always know, I can still use my brain and be a sub!!

~ Physical strength is measured by what we carry. Inner strength is measured by what we can bear. ~


Incognitomaster 52M
722 posts
4/30/2021 3:26 pm

pac it seems you are trying to re-evaluate yourself,a bit like me at the moment. Maybe you can just be content that you can use your brain too well to fit into any drawer.....

When you come to a fork in the road, take it.

__Yogi Berra


pac369 replies on 4/30/2021 6:01 pm:
I am doing some soul searching incognito... And yesterdays events just stirred the pot... Thanks for your thoughts...

Plzrmeister 67M  
10473 posts
4/30/2021 3:38 pm

I know I can still be strong and be a sub. I know I can still call out wrong behavior and be a sub. And I will always know, I can still use my brain and be a sub!!

I don't understand the Dominant who'd desire anything less.

I don't either, but they're out there. Falls into the "To each their own" category.

Make Women Female Again


pac369 replies on 4/30/2021 6:03 pm:
Well.. I don't know either Plz... Thanks for your thoughts though..

max012454 70T

4/30/2021 4:09 pm

It is nice to hear that someone else, besides me, feels this way. All the blogging about "ideal" subs leaves me feeling like there is no niche for me. I want to be involved with a Dom/Domme who understands that I am not a 24/7 submissive/slave, who desires to be owned, humiliated, used, and abused every minute of every day. I do have a life outside of this arena and prefer to keep it that way. Good luck with your search for someone who fits your needs.


pac369 replies on 4/30/2021 6:06 pm:
Thank you so much max.. And I think there are many who don't fit into a cookie cutter mold...

youngandom1000 26M

4/30/2021 4:11 pm

I agree 100% nobody should ever let themselves become an actual slave with no say in anything. Its almost like a cult and people letting themselves lose their freedom is okay. If it goes on long enough there has gotta be permanent damage on their concept of values.


pac369 replies on 4/30/2021 6:08 pm:
Obviously I agree with that.. Thanks for sharing your thoughts and feelings..

youngandom1000 26M

4/30/2021 4:22 pm

    Quoting youngandom1000:
    I agree 100% nobody should ever let themselves become an actual slave with no say in anything. Its almost like a cult and people letting themselves lose their freedom is okay. If it goes on long enough there has gotta be permanent damage on their concept of values.
Also, look at all these comments. They are trying to justify it in anyway they can to rationalize it in their brain. Then you see other people agree and you keep confirming your bias.

Its awful. Picture your daughter with metal leash around her neck. You would feel sick to your stomach bc nobody can have full control. Even with illusion they are living a real life. They would be losing all confidence in themselves.

Its just flat out obvious it shouldnt be happening. Its a toxic way to live


pac369 replies on 4/30/2021 6:09 pm:

reticent85 39F
119 posts
4/30/2021 4:26 pm



Love this, I feel you and agree/can relate to literally every point you just made. Right down to the 4 bedroom house ... although I'm working towards selling that because it's excessive for just a girl and her dog... do I really need 3 bathrooms? LOL

I'm not sure what your experiences have been, but because of one or more of those points, I've been told by many "doms" (they don't deserve a capital D) that I'm not a sub, or at the very least less of one. Which is bullshit. We're subs, human beings with brains/needs/dreams and aspirations, not doormats


pac369 replies on 4/30/2021 6:12 pm:
Thank you! On more than one occasion I have also been told I am not submissive enough.. Usually when I didn't buy into some player Dom's bullshit.. So glad that you related and appreciated the blog..
Thanks so much for the positive comments..

bdsmDOMdaddy 61M
4182 posts
4/30/2021 5:24 pm

beauty brains & submissive is very good BUT all subs have the quality traits of everything you mentioned in some way another...sub = a sassy ass lil brat bitch fuk slut lil girl back door whore BUT to her DOM not anybody or everybody!
every DOM has their own ways kinks soo it’s hard finding the right 24/7 sub into what that DOM is about as well vice versa too...once you do find them NEVER let them go it’s soo hard to replace that bond connection w another!
the sub in the beginning has control power BUT after they submit commit to a DOM they relinquish that & have no real power anymore unless hard limits or boundrys are crossed!
D/s love connection bond is VERY powerful passionate intense strong more so then any conventional vanilla couple love could ever be!


pac369 replies on 4/30/2021 6:21 pm:
I appreciate your thoughts Domdaddy. And I can relate to many of them. Each relationship with a Dom or sub is unique.. And I absolutely believe when you do find that special D/s connection, fight very hard to keep it.. Thanks for the comments...

Toysmakekink 76M

4/30/2021 5:39 pm

Maybe the top/bottom dynamic is a better fit for you and others.


pac369 replies on 4/30/2021 6:23 pm:
Maybe if I just wanted a casual fuck it would be better... But since I don't, I doubt that type of dynamic would work for me in any way.. Thanks for the suggestion..

DancingDom 74M
22594 posts
4/30/2021 5:41 pm

A submissive is a terrible this to waste.

"One Big Sky Covers Us All Equally"


pac369 replies on 4/30/2021 6:24 pm:
Thank you DD!! I totally agree..

1uncommondom 77M

4/30/2021 6:19 pm

When life whispers in your
ear, you'll never withstand
the storm . .
Tell life, you are the storm!


pac369 replies on 4/30/2021 6:30 pm:
As usual 1uncommon you have a unique and interesting comment.. I love being the fucking storm! Thank you...

drmgirl622 68F  
26126 posts
4/30/2021 7:12 pm

A sub finds their way when they can relate to a dominant that can hold their attention and not just in a sexual way. I'm a proud woman, such as yourself, and I've come to realize that the relationship between the dominant and submissive is always a work in progress.


pac369 replies on 4/30/2021 8:32 pm:
Yes drmgirl.. That pride gets me every time.. Love the reference about the Dom and sub as a work in progress.. So true. Thanks for your thoughts.

ChubbyCoxxx 55M

4/30/2021 7:43 pm

Well here is the deal no matter a Top or a bottom, we are all human with emotions and needs along with desires. One can truly not fulfill their needs and desires with out emotions to guide them. That is where the truest sense of what happens between people is created or left alone.
If it is good you will understand it, if it is real you will feel it.


pac369 replies on 4/30/2021 8:34 pm:
Thank you so much for your thoughtful comments.. And I certainly hope I understand and will feel it if it is real!

ChubbyCoxxx 55M

4/30/2021 10:20 pm

"I certainly hope I understand and will feel it if it is real!"

You will feel it for sure, problem is in order to feel we have to have the ability to hurt and fail. That is the tricky part is knowing when someone is truly worthy of who and what you are. Choose wisely and carefully, those whom you gift your greatest treasure of all to, yourself.

If I new just exactly what that looked like or how to see the future, well I would not be here. lol


pac369 replies on 5/1/2021 10:17 am:
No doubt Chubby... One of the hardest things is choosing wisely.. And even when we think we do, often times we realize it won't workout.. Thanks for your thoughts on this...

Wicked_Tongue 61M
690 posts
4/30/2021 11:08 pm

Pac, this is so very similar to my post of a week ago... The different factors that go into how we identify ourselves, and the limitations of these labels!


pac369 replies on 5/1/2021 3:56 am:
Ohh sorry I never read your post... But yes, the more I learn about myself the more I understand I don’t fit into cookie cutter molds... Thanks for sharing your thoughts...

AKwhore7 32F

4/30/2021 11:29 pm

hot


pac369 replies on 5/1/2021 3:56 am:
Thanks

AKwhore7 32F

4/30/2021 11:29 pm

kiss


aliljaded 53F
8928 posts
5/1/2021 4:47 am

Wonderful, thought-provoking post, pac. I also question, where do I fit in? I know I'm a strong-willed submissive that has a brain. Most dominants will shy away from strong submissives. But I still believe the is someone for everyone out there.

"Men need to hunt. She obviously understands this. She’s offering herself as prey. Not easy prey. But willing.”


pac369 replies on 5/1/2021 10:23 am:
Glad you liked the post alil... I have no doubts you wonder where you fit in? Because you are a very strong sub... If I lived close to you I would love to visit and chat with you..

Amen you still believe there is someone for every one.. Because I totally agree... Thank you so much!

sletje1999 24F
134 posts
5/1/2021 8:24 am

I believe we all try to find where we fit in and the person with whom this can work well. And yes many dominants will shy away from a strong sub, but that makes me wonder what their dominance is about.
Life is about finding meaning for yourself. And doing that with someone else together is both a challenge and a promise at the same time. We need the interaction with others to learn in life. Doing self reflection can be helpful, but won't be able to show us all there is about ourselves.


pac369 replies on 5/1/2021 10:26 am:
Very nice sletje.. Your comments are quite mature for someone your age and I enjoyed them. Really related to the self reflection, and how it will only show us so much about ourselves.. Thanks for your comments..


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