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pac369 64F  
10491 posts
10/14/2021 5:36 am

Last Read:
10/16/2021 9:18 am

The fallout continues...

See below..


~ Physical strength is measured by what we carry. Inner strength is measured by what we can bear. ~


pac369 64F  
12701 posts
10/14/2021 5:48 am

For Jon Gruden ex Raiders head football coach...

Over 8 plus years of emails were discovered during the investigation of culture being conducted against The Washington Football Team...

Apparently, Gruden insulted everyone.. Including gay players, woman referees, the NFL player representative, other coaches, and the NFL Commissioner himself. On the NFL website and official letter head no less...

Words can come back to haunt you in many ways. As Gruden has experienced. There's no telling how many more emails could be involved. The NFL has said it will not release more of them, due to a court settlement with The Washington Football Team. Even though the NFL effectively told Gruden if you don't resign, more emails will be divulged...

While this behavior is probably not isolated to Gruden. He is front and center the fall guy... And "Chucky" better hope he has money stashed for a rainy day. Because it's unlikely we will be seeing him publicly for quite a while...

~ Physical strength is measured by what we carry. Inner strength is measured by what we can bear. ~


Greybrow 64M
625 posts
10/14/2021 6:49 am

I think there is a lot of email that exists that would embarrass many in positions of leadership. Gruden is like the guy who reacts to someone else rough play and gets the flag. Should he be the only one punished? Probably not. I guess we will see if more comes to light now that the NFLPA is pressuring for more releases.


pac369 replies on 10/14/2021 7:45 pm:
I agree Grey..
A lot of good ole boys club going on..

Since those emails are sealed by the court I doubt anymore will be released.. But you never know?
Thanks for your thoughts..

MichDom_Bill 66M
39 posts
10/14/2021 7:37 am

At least he was consistent!


pac369 replies on 10/14/2021 7:45 pm:
No doubt about that Bill!

grywolf2 73M
3120 posts
10/14/2021 9:15 am

It's hard to believe that Gruden is the end of all this.

I think he's more like the canary in the coal mine.


pac369 replies on 10/14/2021 7:47 pm:
I think so to gry...

Interesting way of phrasing that, thanks..

HardPaul99 60M
132 posts
10/15/2021 9:49 am

And this is why being in public life is not worth the effort. None of us has not said or done things in our past which could come back to haunt us. There nis NO privacy at all in this country and getting less and less all the time. Words said in haste or the heat of the moment are now public record.
"Let he who is without sin, cast the first stone."


pac369 replies on 10/15/2021 11:16 am:
I could not agree more Paul...
Think about stuff I have said or done in my past and cringe...

Gruden got caught up in another teams shit, and poof he's gone..
Not necessarily right, just the way of the world..

kalbi1231 70M

10/15/2021 10:31 am

Gruden is just collateral damage. The real culprit is Dan Snyder of the Washington Football Team

https://www.si.com/nfl/2021/10/12/jon-gruden-more-consequences-than-daniel-snyder-nfl-business

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2021/07/02/by-protecting-dan-snyder-the-nfl-potentially-protected-other-owners/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/2021/07/01/daniel-snyder-nfl-fine-sexual-harassment-investigation/


pac369 replies on 10/15/2021 11:22 am:
I also agree kalbi...

Gruden is taking the heat for those emails. While Snyder is saying; "I can't believe this happened to you buddy"..
Sorta stinks in many ways.
But that's life!

HardPaul99 60M
132 posts
10/15/2021 11:30 am

What NFL coach is not mouthy and in your face? I don't think any coach would stand the scrutiny . Parcells, Buddy Ryan are just two guys who said what was in their head at the moment. But I guess it is fine these days for people losing their career and income and future for a few miss chosen words. I am sure Gruden is not going to suffer financially but he is finished in the NFL.


pac369 replies on 10/15/2021 11:38 am:
I also think he's done in the NFL..

He said shit every body else does.. But he was caught and used as the scapegoat for Washington's bullshit... It's not right... Just what it is..

Your comments are spot on though..

jenny14 75T  
90364 posts
10/15/2021 11:03 pm

pac

He is getting what he deserves! More important is how do we educate people NOT to be bigots!!!!!


A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. George Bernard Shaw

Jenny


pac369 replies on 10/16/2021 9:18 am:
Your right Jenny..
He's paying a heavy price for his words..

I think it comes down to respect... Whether you agree or don't agree on someone's lifestyle choices, what so's hard about treating everyone the same? Or at a minimum how you want to be treated...

We still have a long way to go unfortunately...


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