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pac369 64F  
10491 posts
10/22/2021 7:10 am

Last Read:
10/23/2021 7:38 pm

A freak accident...


Happened in Santa Fe, NM yesterday...

Alex Baldwin is the star/producer of a movie being made called "Rust", which is a western set in the 1880's. During a scene he fires the prop gun, which misfires and kills the female director of photography, and injures a director who is hospitalized...

Of course the incident is being investigated. Because what the fuck kind of projectile or blank in that gun? This is not a normal occurrence. It happened on a movie set in 1993 from what pac has read... Considering how many movies have been made since then you can see what a isolated incident it is...

What a tragedy for everyone involved! No charges have been filed at this time...

~ Physical strength is measured by what we carry. Inner strength is measured by what we can bear. ~


pac369 64F  
12701 posts
10/22/2021 7:11 am

How fucked up is this??

~ Physical strength is measured by what we carry. Inner strength is measured by what we can bear. ~


drmgirl622 68F  
26134 posts
10/22/2021 7:33 am

So much for a prop gun !


pac369 replies on 10/22/2021 8:29 am:
Yeah drmgirl!
They are not suppose to do that..

All4TheMistress 55M  
1565 posts
10/22/2021 7:35 am

Just heard about this...a very sad and messed up accident that never should have happened!


pac369 replies on 10/22/2021 7:51 am:
Yeah...I agree..

So sad this happened at all..
Thanks for sharing..

RavenousRaven777 56M
380 posts
10/22/2021 8:04 am

Last I heard, the prop gun was loaded with a “live round” (a real bullet)….this same thing happened in the early 90’s on the set of The Crow which killed the star Brandon Lee…Bruce Lee’s son. That one was speculated to have been a hit job.
Which then begs the question, aren’t these NOT prop guns if they can be loaded with real bullets that can fire and send the bullet flying? That my friends is simply called a GUN. Nothing “prop” about a prop gun that can be loaded with real bullets. That’s bat shit crazy to me. But what do I know…🤪🤪🤪🤪


pac369 replies on 10/22/2021 8:33 am:
Interesting RR..

I have not heard about a "live round" in the gun. But clearly whatever was in the gun needs to be thoroughly examined to find out exactly what it was..

Thanks for sharing your comments about the previous shooting accident...

Greybrow 64M
625 posts
10/22/2021 8:13 am

Definitely a tragic event.


pac369 replies on 10/22/2021 8:35 am:
For sure Grey...

Unintentional killings really fuck you up mentally...

Kruture 49M

10/22/2021 8:52 am

Basic firearms safety protocol should have been followed. That shit is not hard. He has zero excuse, prop gun or not, you ALWAYS...ALWAYS follow the most basic of rules. Place the weapon on safe. Drop the magazine. Clear the chamber. You do this EVERY FUCKING TIME you handle a gun. Actor or not, he's guilty of negligent homicide. But he'll skate. We all know it. Sad, really. Condolences to the victims' families.


pac369 replies on 10/22/2021 9:12 am:
I don't disagree with you Kruture. I have been taught gun safety when working in a profession where I was required to qualify every year.

But I don't know the particulars about yesterdays incident. And I will be interested in hearing those particulars..

Thanks for sharing your thoughts..

kalbi1231 70M

10/22/2021 9:13 am

For some reason(s), safety protocols were not followed.

The only difference between "Live" and "Blank" is the lack of a projectile. The round has gunpowder to simulate the flash and noise but nothing leaves the chamber. However, even a blank can be dangerous since there is a pressure wave when the gun is fired.


pac369 replies on 10/22/2021 9:22 am:
Yeah kalbi..

Because some sort of projectile left that gun, or no one would be dead or injured! I have no idea who's fault this is? But someone will have to take responsibility for her death and his injury...

Unbelievable no safety protocols were followed!

canumakemehard2 67M
41 posts
10/22/2021 9:59 am

prop guns still have a wax or rudder bullet to make it work close up they are deadly for can kill you.
sad too hear of this death by accident.


pac369 replies on 10/22/2021 12:14 pm:
Ok..
Thanks for sharing that can!

Very sad indeed…

davinacambs 61T  
847 posts
10/22/2021 12:15 pm

No such thing as a prop gun - either live firing or non-working.

Even a starting pistol ejects debris down the barrel when firing, and at point-blank range it will do damage - so treat it as a hot weapon, and Alec has been around enough to know this.

The props guy is probably negligent on handing over a weapon with the safety off, and without clear instruction, even though Alec Baldwin had heard this safety brief millions of times before.

A sad chain of events.

D-J xx


pac369 replies on 10/22/2021 12:20 pm:
Very sad indeed davina!

Really appreciate all your information.
Thanks for sharing it…

tahimikbayani 53M
8008 posts
10/22/2021 7:15 pm

It's crazy to think a life could end so suddenly and tragically. Quite sad.


pac369 replies on 10/22/2021 8:14 pm:
No doubt tkb...

As the investigation continues a live round in the gun is being confirmed.
Just tragic all the way around..

HardPaul99 60M
132 posts
10/22/2021 7:39 pm

He is not a favorite of mine at all . I have no idea what a prop gun is but if it can fire real rounds, then it is a real gun. We use blank rounds in our Honor Guard for the military funerals we do, but the rifles we use can easily be loaded with live ammo. This sounds very screwy and someone knew the rounds were live.


pac369 replies on 10/22/2021 8:19 pm:
As I have found out since writing the story. There is no such thing as a prop gun. It was a real gun that should have been loaded with a blank. When the gun was handed to Alex Baldwin he was told it was a "cold" gun. Meaning no live round in it... Obviously that's not true.

The bullet when through the female then hit the director in his clavicle. A mistake that never should have happened..

Formature1234 36M
21 posts
10/22/2021 11:01 pm

Hi this is sad to hear especially since he is very against guns.


pac369 replies on 10/23/2021 12:02 am:
I didn’t know he was against guns…

Formature1234 36M
21 posts
10/22/2021 11:17 pm

And I wouldn’t be surprised if he left the show.


pac369 replies on 10/23/2021 12:05 am:
I doubt he’s leaving the show though. He’s also a producer on it…
Personally I wonder if the movie will continue at all? They were already having problems and staff had quit because of safety issues, before the accident…

Thanks for your comments…

ExNameForUse 53F
5764 posts
10/23/2021 3:47 am

Complete tragedy. No other words. For each and every person involved, families, everyone. How life can turn upside down in a split of a second... no other word but tragedy...


pac369 replies on 10/23/2021 7:55 am:
For sure Ex!

And when we think things are bad it's important to remember how quickly life can change; good or bad in a instant...

Thanks for your comments...


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