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pac369 64F  
10498 posts
11/17/2021 6:42 am

Last Read:
11/18/2021 9:06 pm

Topping from the bottom??

While pac realizes this is a funny comic...
Does this actually happen?
And how would you deal with it?



~ Physical strength is measured by what we carry. Inner strength is measured by what we can bear. ~


pac369 64F  
12701 posts
11/17/2021 6:42 am



~ Physical strength is measured by what we carry. Inner strength is measured by what we can bear. ~


Plzrmeister 67M  
10507 posts
11/17/2021 6:58 am

I think I would liken this to the use of a safe word. I always use three .... Green, Yellow and RED. I'm probably like a gazillion others in the peanut gallery.

This would seem to be a 'yellow' ..... It would mean "Don't stop, but the intensity/pain is a little much". A submissive needs safe words and using them is not a form of 'topping' ..... Or so it would seem to me.

Make Women Female Again


pac369 replies on 11/17/2021 8:00 am:
I appreciate that Plz...

Just another way comics don't always imitate real life...
Because safe words are essential when playing, no doubt..

Thanks for your comments...

pete48192 82M

11/17/2021 6:59 am

No big deal I'm hard of hearing so what was that you said?


pac369 replies on 11/17/2021 7:26 am:
Good one pete!

IsoOnlineSub7 65M/56F
1549 posts
11/17/2021 7:13 am

Funny. Yes, sometimes people think the reality and the imagination always match, but not always the case. Thus safe words. With a submissive like that, I would have to keep her gagged most of the time. Until I had the desire to use that mouth.


pac369 replies on 11/17/2021 7:31 am:
Ohhh Iso...

As usual you tell it like it is! But I like it, and would not have it any other way...

Thank you!

Greybrow 64M
625 posts
11/17/2021 7:40 am

You can't always get what you want, but sometimes you do with regrets.


pac369 replies on 11/17/2021 7:46 am:
You are so right Grey!

Thanks for sharing...

YourCaptor 71M
8 posts
11/17/2021 7:50 am

I've experienced one sub who tried to top from the bottom. Either she didn't know what she wanted, or hadn't clearly let me know beforehand. Regardless, we simply didn't meet again.


pac369 replies on 11/17/2021 8:01 am:
Can certainly see why that would happen in a real life scenario Captor..

Thanks for sharing...

manni_pr 52T
2610 posts
11/17/2021 8:26 am

Oh pac, this is more common than one would like to admit. I call them "Passive Dominants" (but that's just me; there's probably a term for them already). I absolutely understand that every one have desires and expectations. but it really irks me when a some one comes as a sub for me to dominate, but then the individual pretty much end up dictating and demanding what they want to be done to them like they truly do not grasp the conceptual definition of the roles.


pac369 replies on 11/17/2021 9:03 am:
Ok manni...

As a sub I didn't even think of it that way at all...
I suppose because I would be careful of what I asked for, in general..
With newer partners I can certainly see where a problem would arise..

Thanks for your comments from your perspective...

darkness567 67M
368 posts
11/17/2021 8:47 am

It's the three C's again.
Communication,
Communication,
Communication.


pac369 replies on 11/17/2021 9:05 am:
Good point dark..

That becomes abundantly clear how important communication is!

drmgirl622 68F  
26149 posts
11/17/2021 9:05 am

I know a Mistress that might listen but it's all done when she chooses and if she chooses.


pac369 replies on 11/17/2021 4:13 pm:
That's interesting drmgirl..

Thanks for sharing..

ridermantel 68M

11/17/2021 10:05 am

He's using a cane. She mentions hard spanking. There are safe words that can be used. In the last frame she tells him "...not that hard." I think the message comes across. Prearranged guidelines who be a help for next time.


pac369 replies on 11/17/2021 4:17 pm:
I hear you rider...

Just another reason to discuss this very type of situation beforehand. As safewords are never a bad thing...

Thanks for your thoughts...

Dave54321 61M
2718 posts
11/17/2021 10:10 am

I'm with Plzrmiester on this, I don't think she is topping from the bottom.
She's communicating!
She's effectively communicating three of the four comunication items in your
'What is BDSM?' post.

Our needs, wants & desires - "I want/need/desire to be punished hard today."
Our limits - "Actually, that's a bit too much."
Wanting something different - She's infering she'd like him to modifiy his punishment

Talking about limits can only take you so far, one persons hard punishment might be
different to anothers. They need to be tested, hence the need for safe words.

I do wonder about the people who claim they have no limits. Have they thought
that through? Do they lack imagination? In most cases I doubt it's true.

In the days when these sort of arrangements where done through 'contact magazines.'
I saw a profile that said they had no limits - they then proceeded to list two or three
things they wouldn't do!
Which is of course fair enough - but it makes the 'No limits' a bit redundant!

Hall & Oates - 'I can't go for that'


pac369 replies on 11/17/2021 4:21 pm:
Right on Dave...

I love how you broke this down and tied it into the What is BDSM blog... Your points are spot on...

As far as limit's go... I have my share. And I wrote a blog on it months ago... Good luck when you say you have no limits. Because you are opening yourself up to a very painful existence! No fucking thanks!

rosaenaluin 65F
11067 posts
11/17/2021 12:22 pm

So much to say about this event, comic.

First, punishment is for what i know, not something that is been negotiated.
It is not for fun! youknow!

Second, if this was a regular scene, the d type should start slowly and build it up
starting with a cane is not building things up.

Canes are mostly very heavy to handle as a sub, the wack is pretty, or can be, pretty intens.
I really dont know if this is toppin from the bottom...
I think, they did not negotiate the scene very well.

There is also this thing, called: funishment, that is for having fun, playacting to be "punished" but only with what the s type loves!!

No limits is the dumest thing to say, doms have limits.
every one has limits.
I always react with; alright, no limits? Good, chop off your left arm!
Or drink a bottle bleach.

An other thing, a dominant does not want someone who has no limits, because that is very dangerous, for the dominant, too

And gives of the idea about having very low selfworth...

"i will do anything, as long as you stay with me" kind or horror

I know of a lot of male subs, who act like this, or give a written list with all the things they dont want to have done to them. but call themself; no limits sub....


pac369 replies on 11/17/2021 4:27 pm:
You weren't kidding rosa...

But your opinions all make sense... Where you see deeper than just the comic... I am sure a cane on my ass with no warm-up would make me scream and probably cry like a baby. I love that you discussed that...

And could not agree more about no limits.. It is ridiculous to me. And no one should ever be that desperate to be with a sub or Dom!

Thanks for sharing your comments!

chameleon63 61M
203 posts
11/17/2021 6:00 pm

It's a great comic, because it's funny and true at the same time.

I personally would pause long enough to remind my partner there are certain words and phrases for asserting ones limits .. everything else is within play, and if I didn't hear the right phrase she'd get extra for interrupting.


pac369 replies on 11/17/2021 6:37 pm:
Glad you like the comic chameleon...

And it appears the consensus thinks like you do to. Nonetheless, I have enjoyed hearing all the different ways it has been said... Communication and safewords are so essential in our lifestyle.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

jenny14 75T  
90403 posts
11/17/2021 8:56 pm

pac

LOL

It is interesting as it raises the issue of "soft limits"


A life spent making mistakes is not only more honorable, but more useful than a life spent doing nothing. George Bernard Shaw

Jenny


pac369 replies on 11/18/2021 6:30 am:
Yes Jenny..

As all the conversations have been about that..

tahimikbayani 53M
8008 posts
11/18/2021 5:48 pm

It's happened a few times, but then I started using gags prior to the spanking.


pac369 replies on 11/18/2021 9:05 pm:
And your not the first one to mention that tkb!


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