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The Seed The Seed  I was chatting with some people in an alt.com chat room the other day on the topic of submission. One person had stated, "submission is submission." This led to a flurry of protests, mostly from real world submissive women. The person who made the comment it should be noted seems to be of the cybersex ilk. Anyway, I thought that I would present my views here for the masses. I believe that one first needs to identify what submission is or is not before one takes on the statement "submission is submission". So here goes. First of all, I do not believe that forced submission is submission. When not done willingly the appearances of submission are just that - appearances. Putting a gun to someone's head and demanding that they perform in some certain way, does not make the victim of the crime a sub. That victim is solely an unwilling victim. So forget coercion. It does not create a sub. Secondly, I do not believe that love of another person is an honest reason to call oneself a sub or a slave (more on the distinction later). For if one falls out of love, is one no longer a submissive person? No. If the one you love asks you be a sub or slave, that alone does not mean a sub or slave is born at the acceptance. The so called submissive individual wants to love not submit but gives in to the loved one's wishes. This will not stand the test of submission. Third, consider the case in which one feels a deep need to submit to another. Consider that the individual feels incomplete or unfulfilled if the opportunity does not present itself. Well, now you have something. This person is truly submissive for he or she feels an inherent need to submit. The submissive being does not need to be forced, but submits to another's will, well, willingly. The submissive being does not need to love the dominant person. But love may come after the fact. To me submissive individuals are never created; rather, they are discovered by one's self or by another. It is as if the seed for submission were inherent. Always, like a seedling in the garden, there is the potential to grow, but not necessarily. One has the free will to allow oneself to grow or to be grown by a dominant person. And what of the distinction between sub and slave? Well, to me, a sub is merely the tenuous first step on the path to real slavery. And I have noted that the distinction is rather more blurred in Asia than in the West. Once, a Japanese slave told me, "In here, there is no sub, only slave." What do you think? |
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5/17/2021 1:25 pm |
Kvinnsub, thanks for your comment. I will be writing more blogs in the near future.
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I am interested whether you think a womans submission relates to one man or can it be mor eher general nature? Gxx
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6/1/2021 11:39 pm |
Geri, I think alt deleted my previous response to you. I'll do it again.
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6/1/2021 11:50 pm |
Geri, first of all, I believe that submissive women (and men) are born that way (Lady Gags said it, right?) The DNA for submission is like a seed deep inside. Now, that seed cannot choose where to grow anymore than a baby can choose its mother. A Master is like a gardener who will nourish and grow the seed into flourishing flower. That gardener will not likely share that flower with another gardener. Geri, D/s is not a democratic institution. You are submissive because you bear the seed. If lucky a skilled Master will grow that seed in you. But you were already a submissive woman before that Master came along. You do not submit because of a particular man. You submit because you must. If that man were NOT a dom, would he dominate you? Would you submit whether he welcomed it or not?
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6/2/2021 12:23 am |
Geri, here is a follow-up. In the Japanese language, "Akatanin" translates as "A perfect stranger". I shortened it to atanin back in 2019. Later, it became a calling card of sorts for external communication. I trust you understand when I differentiate between "external" and "internal" as we are communicating internally now, right? Back in 2019, I had options as to where atanin (the stranger) would reside. I determined that he would reside in the realm of the Seventh iteration of the English alphabet. Use your fingers to name those increments. If you are clever, you should come up with a "g". But this alone does not get you to my place in this universe. You must indicate my gender. But my gender must be misspelled. Anyway, minding Big Brother, you can be with me using this formula: nickame for stranger plus year of its birth plus the seventh plus a misspelled gender. Then be calm at that point. This should work for us if you are ever so clever.
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i am ver much a number 3, having always felt the need. i am fulfilled in submission and feel empty when not in submission.
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Thank You for this blog Sir ADP. Let me just take a brief look at this. My opinion was and is still the same: Do I call submission determination. As correctly mentioned, you might escape your destiny and so youre determination, but there is no way around it to find youre deepest and highest fulfillment. I have devoted myself to the question of the difference between a slave and a sub for a long time. And I think there is hardly one. There may be only one significant difference. A sub is free, a slave is not. Since freedom is the most important thing in everyone's life and is more important than health or happiness, I consider this difference to be enormous. Sincerely Yours, belle
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6/22/2021 12:50 pm |
docile_1_4u, thank you for taking the time to read my blog. For me only type 3 is valid.
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6/22/2021 1:03 pm |
Belledejour, I appreciate your taking the time to comment on my blog. The notion of sub vs. slave is truly a Western one. In Japan (and I suspect most of Asia) this is not the case. Presently, I have three online slaves and one local prospect. All are Asian - Indian, Vietnamese, Thai and Chinese. None was ever afforded the appellation, nor cared to be called, "sub". They are all slaves. It is quite occidental to say a sub is free and a slave is not. No. A slave, like a Western sub, has its limits. Those limits do nothing to discount that otherwise the submissive individual is decidedly NOT free. What you call that individual matters not. To me a sub is a neophyte on the way to becoming a slave. Wait to you see my next blog titled "On Becoming A Slave".
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again it was nice reading your blog and your ideas on the subject, bye video
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I may be late with my comment, so no clue if you are gonna read that, but this is among the best content I've found on this wicked place so far. Well written and to the core of the topic. I agree that submission and domination are parts of our personality and "layed into our cradle" waiting to be woken and nourished by incidents and other people. I TOTALLY agree that submission is something offered and not forced, And wow do they get this wrong in almost all the rooms and scenes! I think I disagree that "sub" is just a pre-step to become a "full slave" and that there is no clear difference and line between them, just an artifical one.
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7/6/2022 7:08 pm |
SirThomasGray, I appreciate your comments.
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A very interesting read Sir. And i couldn't agree more with most of it. i've always felt that there are men and women who are born to dominate others. They may be demanding, aggressive, or they may simply be naturally confident and so self assured that those of us on the other end of the spectrum, men and women born to be submissive, slaves, recognize the Dominant traits and are eager to submit, to please, to demonstrate our need to be dominated, led, used, humiliated, abused, by the Dominant, As far as slave vs submissive, i describe myself on my profile as submissive (wanna be slave). i don't think there is much difference in the way i view the topic. In almost all respects i am a slave, i was in essence born that way. It just took me awhile to discover it.
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7/1/2023 7:27 am |
bislavemale2use, thank you for your comments.
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