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uncommon1 66M  
667 posts
9/28/2023 2:46 pm
Homeless


There are approx. 6000 homeless
people in Ukraine.

While there are approx. 582,000
homeless in the U.S.


uncommon1 66M  
1449 posts
9/28/2023 2:49 pm

Congress has approved 76 billion
dollars to aid the homeless in Ukraine.

While only approving 3 billion to
aid the homeless in the U.S.


Peter8xxx 65M
609 posts
9/28/2023 3:31 pm

I find your statement provocative and heretical!
Without help and support the Ukrainians would be WITHOUT A FATHERLAND!
The Ukrainian people would be the prey of an unscrupulous war criminal!
What do you mean by such a stupid statement?


Dave54321 61M
2718 posts
9/28/2023 4:35 pm

I would be absolutly stunned if there were only 6000 homeless in Ukraine!
Given the way the Russians have been pounding down apartment blocks &
houses for the past year & more.

There are nearly 6000 homeless Ukrainian (refugees) in Britain. (5915).
Lots of people in Britain took people in early in the war, but whether some of them
only had space for a limited time, I don't know.

According to the U.N. Refugee Agency.
There are 8 million Ukrainians registered as refugees in Europe & another 5.3
million internally displaced. Now most of these 13.3 million refugees are being sheltered
in Britian, Europe, or their own country. So most are not technically without a roof
over their head, but as to how many have a home to return to???
By the way, 13.3 million is more than a 1/4 of the population.

The 76 Billion you refer to is Humanitarian, Financial & Military Aid.
To imply that 76 Billion is being given to aid 6000 homeless people in Ukraine
seems to lack accuracy to me.


uncommon1 66M  
1449 posts
9/28/2023 5:30 pm

There are 8 million Ukrainians registered as refugees in Europe

I didn't put "refugees" in the figures.
Do you want to know how many
refugees the U. S. endures daily from
south America??


Dave54321 61M
2718 posts
9/28/2023 6:39 pm

usafacts.org say 25,465 refugees entered the USA in 2022.
Of course if you add in immigrants, the figures I've seen are 2,200 per day.

Big numbers.
The UK has it's own problems with refugees & immigrants.

I'm sorry, but I'm still struggling to see how that in anyway makes your implication
of 76 billion going to aid 6000 homeless people in Ukraine any more accurate!


rydermantel 69M
25524 posts
9/29/2023 12:37 am

What is the real story in Ukraine? Something does not seem right. Are we getting the whole story? The US kicked the USSR out of Cuba. Is Russia doing something similar? Protecting their border?


Peter8xxx 65M
609 posts
9/29/2023 3:51 am

    Quoting rydermantel:
    What is the real story in Ukraine? Something does not seem right. Are we getting the whole story? The US kicked the USSR out of Cuba. Is Russia doing something similar? Protecting their border?
The USA stopped the Russians on the coast of Cuba! They prevented A bombs from reaching Cuba!
Ukraine is a sovereign state, free and independent!
The Ukrainians decide ALONE who is their friend or enemy!!!
Russia has NO right to interfere in the affairs of a sovereign and independent state!!!
Russia MURDERS and DESTROYS a country in which it has no business!!! Russia has NO right to be in Ukraine!!!
Nobody threatened or attacked Russia!!!
Whoever Ukraine wants to join NATO is their FREE DECISION!!!
Think about your neighbors, do you want them to make themselves comfortable in your living room WITHOUT YOUR CONSENT???


uncommon1 66M  
1449 posts
9/29/2023 5:37 am

The US kicked the USSR out of Cuba.

Get it straight. After failed attempt
by russia to overthrow castro in cuba
in the bay of pigs invasion russia reached
a secret agreement with castro to place
nuclear missiles in cuba. The U.S. blockaded
cuba to force russia to remove the nuclear
missiles they had aimed at the U.S.
The fact is, cuba defended itself against russian
invasion and the blockade convinced russia to
withdraw their nuclear missiles from cuba.

Comparing the cuban missile crisis to the
russian inhumane invasion of ukraine is a
an absurd depiction of history.


uncommon1 66M  
1449 posts
9/29/2023 5:52 am

usafacts.org say 25,465 refugees entered the USA in 2022.

You must have searched long an hard
to find a number that low!!

More than 2.2 million migrants have
been encountered at the southern
border so far in fiscal 2023.

Europe wants help with all the Ukraine
migrants etc.
when can we expect a check from the U.K.,
Germany and the rest of europe to aid the
hordes of south american migrants???


Peter8xxx 65M
609 posts
9/29/2023 1:49 pm

"Europe wants help with all the Ukraine
migrants etc.
when can we expect a check from the U.K.,
Germany and the rest of europe to aid the
hordes of south american migrants???"

O! Wait, let me get this straight.
The "Cold War" is over, the climate change does not take place, USA withdraws after it has destabilized half the world!
The U.S. is a normal country without the claim to be a leader everywhere and now needs development aid.
Your damn snail shell will not be big enough to hide in it!!!
How big is the USA in terms of area, how high is the population of the USA compared to Germany? Which country in Europe has taken in more refugees than Germany? Taken in,not put in collective camps to send them on!!!!
You want to retreat and have your peace?it's too late for that! China stands before Taiwan, armed to the teeth, they also want to bite like Putin! You don't want to have NATO anymore,then have fun alone.You don't want to support your allies anymore,that's exactly what Putin wants !!!!
It is sacrilege to talk about "homeless" in Ukraine!

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boh99 68M
3154 posts
9/29/2023 9:34 pm

    Quoting uncommon1:
    The US kicked the USSR out of Cuba.

    Get it straight. After failed attempt
    by russia to overthrow castro in cuba
    in the bay of pigs invasion russia reached
    a secret agreement with castro to place
    nuclear missiles in cuba. The U.S. blockaded
    cuba to force russia to remove the nuclear
    missiles they had aimed at the U.S.
    The fact is, cuba defended itself against russian
    invasion and the blockade convinced russia to
    withdraw their nuclear missiles from cuba.

    Comparing the cuban missile crisis to the
    russian inhumane invasion of ukraine is a
    an absurd depiction of history.
long ago I read an opinion that the Cuban Missile Crisis was actually a win for Russia - they conceded to JFK which boosted his popularity, but they got concessions in other parts of the world. It was like a chess gambit.

I don't recall the exact details, just the thought remains.


Peter8xxx 65M
609 posts
9/30/2023 3:26 am

boh99- How serious the situation was at that time you can see in the film "Thirteen Days".


Peter8xxx 65M
609 posts
9/30/2023 5:28 am

"Selenskyj announces gigantic arms alliance"!!!!

Want to bet that American arms companies are in the first place??? The spent money, which you mourn soooo, is soon back in America!


BillywildMartin 73M

9/30/2023 7:17 am

    Quoting Peter8xxx:
    "Selenskyj announces gigantic arms alliance"!!!!

    Want to bet that American arms companies are in the first place??? The spent money, which you mourn soooo, is soon back in America!
Hey there, 'Pete', find it INTERESTING that you want to take 'History" back to the early 1960's to make your 'point' about how the USA is the BIG BAD BOY on the block, and therefore has is responsible for what's happening in Ukraine. Why not go back to the END of World War ii, or even the beginning of WW ii, and make your argument, Pete?


Peter8xxx 65M
609 posts
9/30/2023 7:56 am

    Quoting BillywildMartin:
    Hey there, 'Pete', find it INTERESTING that you want to take 'History" back to the early 1960's to make your 'point' about how the USA is the BIG BAD BOY on the block, and therefore has is responsible for what's happening in Ukraine. Why not go back to the END of World War ii, or even the beginning of WW ii, and make your argument, Pete?
Can you understand what you read???
Have you read and understood all the posts on this blog?
You can save your whataboutism.
You are welcome to tell me where I am wrong in your opinion!


JohnnyLightning 65M  
9683 posts
12/30/2023 12:50 pm

So what's your point?

Howling at the moon and mal ad osteo.



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