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sumisa_bdsm 36F
47 posts
9/11/2023 3:13 pm
What are the first signs that a female is sub?


I'm curious, can you as a man know if a woman is sub at first sight?

4_Fun_4_Me 65M
188 posts
9/11/2023 3:26 pm

Yes sometimes you can by their demeanor.


NoNonsenseFromU 74M  
170 posts
9/11/2023 3:39 pm

I think it is very hard to look at someone and decide that are sub - or dom - at first sight. I suppose if you had exceptionally acute powers of observation and intuition - maybe.


uncommon1 66M  
1438 posts
9/11/2023 3:42 pm

The darkest minds tend
to be hidden behind the
most unlikely faces.


Ds_seek_sub_slav 63M/26F
1826 posts
9/11/2023 4:08 pm

It is clear after just a few minutes. It is how they respond to the first few minutes of a conversation. That is how I found my two little girls.


sumisa_bdsm 36F
3 posts
9/11/2023 5:32 pm

In my opinion, at first it must be very difficult, but perhaps there are certain gestures or behavior you can notice


NoNonsenseFromU 74M  
170 posts
9/11/2023 5:54 pm

A certain deference; eyes often cast downward; a reluctance to speak or act without at some assent (You look like you want to say something - please go ahead). Even then. it is more a sense than a fact.


Ds_seek_sub_slav 63M/26F
1826 posts
9/11/2023 7:37 pm

    Quoting sumisa_bdsm:
    In my opinion, at first it must be very difficult, but perhaps there are certain gestures or behavior you can notice
It's really her overall demeanor. She's respectful. Waits for questions to be asked of her. Attentive. She may make the first move by looking or smiling, but allows the dominate to take the lead immediately. Almost shy, but not. Both my little girls were that way. It endeared me to them to let me and enjoyed me taking the lead. For my oldest, it has been 14 years. For my youngest, it has been 5 years. We are all looking for one more. See our blog at Ds_seek_sub_slav. Any membership status can leave a comment there.


ran34 68M  
21 posts
9/11/2023 8:19 pm

No, I would never presume that a woman is a sub based on a first meeting. A bdsm relationship has to be based on trust, honesty. and a history of true communication. Call me old school but I'm fine with that.


boh99 68M
3154 posts
9/11/2023 9:03 pm

often times, I think people who are aware can pick up on it.


alwaysassertive 64M

9/11/2023 9:56 pm

As soon I notice a woman I can tell. That conclusion is solidified as soon as we speak. I can't say exactly what observational clues I perceive. If it's a check list. It's done completely subconsciously. I'm never wrong. Maybe it's similar to the way a dog can tell friend or foe.

Sometime's at a store I'll help a woman lift something heavy that she wants to put in her cart, and we'll talk briefly, and I'll sense the contact and I know she feels it too. Sometimes we'll exchange email addresses and sometimes not, but regardless the connection is felt. Sometimes she'll tell me her whole life's story.

I don't have a problem striking up a conversation with a woman in a store because im not on the prowl for pussy. Women know when you're just trying to get into their panties.

I met a submissive woman in Costco's parking lot. I saw that she was a lone and had a 40 pound bag of dog food. I walked up beside her with my cart an asked if I could lift that bag for her.

walking to her car I said look over there it's a Maserati GranTurismo with a 4.7 liter v8. You don't see those too often, I said probably with a 6 speed manual. She said no its an automatic...Thats my car.

I loaded up her dog food and we talked a bit and she said we don't we go get some coffee and maybe you can it for a spin. I really thought hard about that but declined saying I was in a hurry to to get home and run some errands, She gave me her number and I never did call her. Sorry I couldn't answer your question.

I think a sub knows a dominant man when she sees one just as I know a submissive woman when I meet one. I think a man who calls himself dominant but can't tell a sub when he talking to her should reevaluate himself. Maybe he not what he thinks he is. I hope you have a great night.


alwaysassertive 64M

9/11/2023 11:07 pm

Very interesting profile. tu hablas espanol? It's been a long time since I've been exposed to espanol. estar segura.


juliusjmjB1 52M
80 posts
9/12/2023 12:53 am

Hello sub sumisa,

Interesting question.
I think experience comes into handy of course. The more interaction you have to with the opposite sex, the more you will be able to finetune your senses for detecting a sub or a dominate. For me personally, it is difficult to tell if a female is sub or not. Besides, it takes time to get to know someone because a first impression is just that...a first...! Even chemistry takes time to develop if the will is present. Due to my upbringing, I grew up with boys separated from the girls....boarding school....the army...And my few friends where always only males. Approaching females is not my strongest point, especially with the appearance of the LBGT...Me2 + BLmatter....All these Social changes don't make it any easier....at least speaking for myself.

I've read all comments and everyone gives credible answers, which I completely agree with.

P.S.: good luck with your new Blog and your present lactation training, sub!


mistress_black_d 60F
184 posts
9/12/2023 1:50 am

So first things first, I am not a man.

However, the question is interesting in that is presumes that there is a physical presentation to ones sexuality and specifically BDSM role.

I see this a being a question in two parts.
* Can you identify a woman who already knows she is submissive on sight alone.
* Can you identify a woman who may not know she is submissive on sight alone.

For anyone who claims the latter I believe that you are projecting your desire and not necessarily being honest (with yourself or with her). Socially women are still "encouraged" to be demure and to defer to men; that does not necessarily make them submissive but may well her just de-risking encounters.

The more important question is the first; can you tell if a woman who knows she is submissive is sub by sight alone.
For this I would suggest considering the context of that interaction, in a club / dungeon / munsch then yes you can often tell by dress and behaviour.

But what about other circumstances?
The demure secretary in a boardroom can be the wild Dominatrix in her own environment (I know several and it is like a butterfly emerging from a chrysalis whenever they decide to play, but they feel safe in that cocoon so return to it).

Or it could be the strong business leader who needs to be bound, degraded and humiliated in her home life.

For me the idea that you can tell someones role based on appearance alone is false; We can all dress in ways that give an impression; whether that is "looking hot" for a first date; or dressing down because we want a low interaction day as a woman I know I can change how others see me; every now and then I will even get out the "war paint" for a night on the town!

If the question is then extended to "how do you know if someone is sub"; then that becomes a much more enjoyable conversation.
But it starts there, with a conversation; some flirting, some double entendre's and then some "single entendre's and damn proud of it" (for anyone who has read Terry Pratchett).

There is something beautifully enjoyable about a shared filthy thought, in a public and vanilla setting. Where you can talk around and explore each other intimately whilst remaining fully clothed and under the eyes of others.

Thanks for bringing up an interesting conversation started.

MBD


NoNonsense_Dom 70M  
1538 posts
9/12/2023 5:37 am

I would never try to label someone just from looks alone. Within 5 minutes of starting a conversation I would have a much better chance of picking them. I have 45 or so years of kink and a whole lot longer of dating, and there are so many tell tale signs, but to try and pick just from looking, I wouldn't even try. That is why conversation is so important in this lifestyle.


bdsmDOMdaddy 61M
4163 posts
9/12/2023 2:58 pm

Hm...l can tell sometimes by what l see in their eyes as well how they talk interact w others & mannerisms
sometimes I’m pleasantly surprised to find out somebody l thought was vanilla is a total experienced freak
sometimes l think someone’s into kink & they’re totally vanilla as l become exposed
the quiet shy ones tend to be the freakiest!


isarainer 55M
69 posts
9/13/2023 3:15 am

I agree with many of the above comments; looks alone are not enough (unless it's at a BDSM event when there's a kind of code to how they're dressed/behaving).

You need to talk and discuss to find out, ad sometimes even then, it's a hidden longing they can't put a name too, same as men. Sometimes you don't know what you need, just that it isn't what you're getting


Sirlivejive 64M  
1 post
9/16/2023 10:41 am

First meeting is no a proof OF KNOWING,and to me a sub chooses their DOM,
ALWAYS REMEMBER THE SUB IS IN CONTROL Psychologically.they are the one who wants to be domanated by you


sluttwouse 31F  
765 posts
9/21/2023 5:18 am

Hi, I am not a man but I have a thought. She gets naked n keels with her plams up lol.


DancingDom 74M
22591 posts
9/23/2023 12:55 pm

I may pick up some clues in mannerisms and speech. But that could be misleading, specifically f younger folks who pick up language which is popular with their generation. Same would apply to those who seem to be dominant (and in the lifestyle) but are just like that becasue of career or familial situations.

Best to you.

"One Big Sky Covers Us All Equally"


Shagbot 38M

10/2/2023 3:33 am

It would depend is they are a sub in all aspects of their lives, or if being asub sexually is their release from the control they have in the rest of their lives.


Jizmaglobin 52M
8 posts
10/7/2023 11:17 am

I would say no, you can not tell in every situation. Sure there are glaring examples that anyone would be able to identify. But then there are people like me who in a lot of scenarios don't really care how something happens or if it happens at all. I'll defer that decision to someone who does care and leave it at that. Many would view that as being somewhat submissive, but I'm not. I just don't care one way or the other. The last girl I was with that wanted an alpha male thought of me as something different because I don't demand everyone's attention and bark orders to people. I told her what she wanted was someone who wants to be perceived as an alpha male but isn't sure of themselves enough to believe it, thus the need to constantly reassure themselves. Being bossy doesn't make you an alpha in and of itself. Me personally, I don't follow anyone unless I choose to and I do whatever I want to, regardless of what anyone else thinks or does about it. I consider myself an alpha because I follow no one and I make my own
decisions. I don't care if anyone follows along because they're not an important part of what I have going on. I told her it gets no more alpha than that and I still believe that. So, my point is that at first someone might see me as being submissive when I'm just being compliant, and there is a huge difference. I know this because of the reactions I get when it's something that I do care about and someone is tripping why I'm not bending on my position. So I imagine that can go with anyone else as well. So to the question again, not always but sometimes absolutely



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