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MsLise 54F  
93 posts
11/11/2007 12:28 am
Do you need HELP?


Subs/slaves are you having problems finding someone? Are you afraid to ask questions? Are you afraid to open up and just let go? Are you afraid to meet? These are typical questions that I ask first and far most. Submission and slavery are very big steps to take and a hard thing to swallow if you are not sure of what you want. Find someone you can talk to and open up to here and for sure on the phone. Talking on the phone to someone who is REAL will help more than anything especailly if its someone who has experience in training new subs/slave and they are not sick minded and totally evil. I am always open to listen and give advise...Call stop by and drop a line or two...Don't let your perfect chance to experience your calling slip away because you are AFRIAD!

Ms. Lise


MsLise 54F  
54 posts
11/11/2007 7:04 pm

Both are real....Phatkat is my original which was geared toward males subs and slaves ...and MsLise profile is geared towards females. If you ask any of the subs/slaves male or females who are real who have had encounters with me they will tell you that I am real no doubt about it ...Nothing in either profile is fake or a lie. I am not claiming to be two different people just didnt want one LONG profile....and being a standard member you can only do so much so when i am blocked on one i use the other...and YES I let people know that I have two profiles ...So did that answer your fucking question? I know you thought I was trying to hide something. I am not stupid...I have my signature on both profiles as MS LISE duh...I am a black woman not a dumb ass blonde white submissive as bitch.

Ms. Lise


sasseelassy 57F

4/23/2008 8:01 pm

Bravo Ms. Lise!!!


MsLise 54F  
54 posts
4/25/2008 9:07 pm

Thank you sasseelassy.

Ms. Lise


submischief61 49F

10/12/2008 9:24 pm

Well put Ms Lise explaination of having two profiles... I only have one proflie but I often go by two names. I will e-mail you the details and explanation later...

What I really wanted to comment on was your questions on this blog...
Subs/slaves are you having problems finding someone? YES Are you afraid to meet? YES

I'm submissive and in the past I've tried introducing my fetishes to vanilla relationships. Now, like you I prefer chocolate or even a strawberry color on my ass. (Sorry, getting a bit carried away...)

My point is I only get so far and as a sub by nature I can't get them to challenge me. This is the first time I've joined such a sight, I've only been on for about a month observing the e-mails pour in and looking at what others have to say. Many are anxious to meet without getting to know me and that makes me uneasy.

I've only met one person from this site and we met in a public vanilla enviornment. Everything went well and I agreed we could meet again in a few weeks. The very next IM he said something quite disturbing to me which proved he really didn't listen to me. At this point I do not want to meet him again... Still searching... Just because I'm submissive doesn't mean I'm stupid...


~Sub Mischief~
=^. .^=


MsLise 54F  
54 posts
10/13/2008 9:51 pm

Submischief...good point...I do like to meet people Vanilla really soon just to establish that I/they are real. I don't like long drawn out internet/cyber get to know unless thats the only way the person can communicate with me. I am real and believe that things must be done decent and in order.

Ms. Lise


bibibob2 89M

10/15/2009 12:21 pm

Ms Lise im longing to be a kinky bi submissive slave to you I promise ill be in texas next eek Lets go to red lobster for dinner .please hold your pee for me to have with my dinner


ljckman101 70M
144 posts
3/7/2019 1:58 pm

Hi Ms. Lise,

I've been looking for a few years now for another black Mistress (my preference) who is seeking a white complete toilet slave (me), and it appears that it's very difficult to find someone who is willing to be a lifestyle Mistress who will accept dinners out and nominal gifts as "due compensation" for using me. It appears that most are only into it for the exorbitant $ compensations they require and are extremely disingenuous about any and all commitment they have with their slaves. It seems to be the "wave of the new world"! Me Me Me & fuck everybody else! However sadly, in my situation, I can't afford what these Women are looking for!

Who can i turn to? Do You have any advice for me, Ms. Lise?

ljckman - In the NYC area...


ljckman101 70M
144 posts
3/7/2019 2:04 pm

By the way, I'm a Switch, and a lifestyle one at that! I have had black females as slaves and never charged anyone a dime...ever! It was always about commitment & caring...



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